New Posts For Thread: The whip and the form bookhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28511289/the-whip-and-the-form-bookNot sure if it has been suggested before, but, another side effect of the newwhip rules is that it renders the form book more useless than beforebecause all those horse ratings achieved before may not be achievable again coz you can not now batter th'Well i was on NO COMPROMISE on monday and it was almost ridden hands and heels..It WOULD HAVE WON with a couple more cracks.. 'IYOhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28511289/the-whip-and-the-form-book?post_id=510023233#510023233'Well i was on NO COMPROMISE on monday and it was almost ridden hands and heels..It WOULD HAVE WON with a couple more cracks.. 'IYOSat, 15 Oct 2011 06:40:22 -0500A couple more cracks, usually turns intoa whipping frenzy though.Can't the jockies give a little more thoughtto thier jobs?It can't be that difficult surely.7 times, 5 of which can be during the finnish.Simples!https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28511289/the-whip-and-the-form-book?post_id=510023071#510023071A couple more cracks, usually turns intoa whipping frenzy though.Can't the jockies give a little more thoughtto thier jobs?It can't be that difficult surely.7 times, 5 of which can be during the finnish.Simples!Sat, 15 Oct 2011 06:36:12 -0500CT, would it have won if there had been no whip i.e. the winner received the same number of cracks (none).https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28511289/the-whip-and-the-form-book?post_id=510022521#510022521CT, would it have won if there had been no whip i.e. the winner received the same number of cracks (none).Sat, 15 Oct 2011 06:21:18 -0500duncan idaho 14 Oct 11 23:10People obviously have different views on this...i personally think the whip makes little difference to a horse's finishing position (except extreme Deano's Beeno-type cases) and am more than happy to treat the form as it shttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28511289/the-whip-and-the-form-book?post_id=510022195#510022195duncan idaho 14 Oct 11 23:10People obviously have different views on this...i personally think the whip makes little difference to a horse's finishing position (except extreme Deano's Beeno-type cases) and am more than happy to treat the form as it sSat, 15 Oct 2011 06:11:36 -0500https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28511289/the-whip-and-the-form-book?post_id=510021903#510021903Sat, 15 Oct 2011 06:02:35 -0500The whip would certainly be an aid to form study if you knew in advance how many times they'd be hit if they were struggling to win. Since we don't, they can stuff their 13 lashes for the gambled on horse versus 5 for the drifter it beats in the phothttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28511289/the-whip-and-the-form-book?post_id=510017825#510017825The whip would certainly be an aid to form study if you knew in advance how many times they'd be hit if they were struggling to win. Since we don't, they can stuff their 13 lashes for the gambled on horse versus 5 for the drifter it beats in the photSat, 15 Oct 2011 03:45:07 -0500Of course the whip makes a differance, ask any of the old time "honest job jockeys" the ones who could be relied on when the money was down, or if the owner was chasing black type.Was it Piggot who said he could get any horse to win a race if it washttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28511289/the-whip-and-the-form-book?post_id=510004933#510004933Of course the whip makes a differance, ask any of the old time "honest job jockeys" the ones who could be relied on when the money was down, or if the owner was chasing black type.Was it Piggot who said he could get any horse to win a race if it wasFri, 14 Oct 2011 17:19:13 -0500People obviously have different views on this...i personally think the whip makes little difference to a horse's finishing position (except extreme Deano's Beeno-type cases) and am more than happy to treat the form as it stands, particularly on Flat.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28511289/the-whip-and-the-form-book?post_id=510004603#510004603People obviously have different views on this...i personally think the whip makes little difference to a horse's finishing position (except extreme Deano's Beeno-type cases) and am more than happy to treat the form as it stands, particularly on Flat.Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:10:22 -0500If you can, I think it's imperative that people watch video race replays of horses they fancy and count the number of strokes needed to get them into races. Also, those horses that hardly saw the whip but still managed to get into contention might behttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28511289/the-whip-and-the-form-book?post_id=509995797#509995797If you can, I think it's imperative that people watch video race replays of horses they fancy and count the number of strokes needed to get them into races. Also, those horses that hardly saw the whip but still managed to get into contention might beFri, 14 Oct 2011 13:52:04 -0500Not sure if it has been suggested before, but, another side effect of the newwhip rules is that it renders the form book more useless than beforebecause all those horse ratings achieved before may not be achievable again coz you can not now batter thhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28511289/the-whip-and-the-form-book?post_id=509988559#509988559Not sure if it has been suggested before, but, another side effect of the newwhip rules is that it renders the form book more useless than beforebecause all those horse ratings achieved before may not be achievable again coz you can not now batter thFri, 14 Oct 2011 10:30:08 -0500