New Posts For Thread: There is surely something seriously and fundamentally wrong with structure ofhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28504793/there-is-surely-something-seriously-and-fundamentally-wrong-with-structure-ofHorseracing when one sees day after day the current ChampionJockey riding one no hoper after another, perhaps in time the restrictive use of the whip might see a lessening of the drossand rubbish which grace our racecourses on a daily basis.Two obvious flaws wee eck,the "dross" as you put it is usually owned by people at the lower end of the market so you would be diminishing those ranks.Also the "wastage" at the moment is already huge ie Slaughter of those not up to scratch.After centuhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28504793/there-is-surely-something-seriously-and-fundamentally-wrong-with-structure-of?post_id=509888585#509888585Two obvious flaws wee eck,the "dross" as you put it is usually owned by people at the lower end of the market so you would be diminishing those ranks.Also the "wastage" at the moment is already huge ie Slaughter of those not up to scratch.After centuWed, 12 Oct 2011 04:38:35 -0500Re BD's comment..I remember years ago a program that showed how a ceratin show jumper/trainer got his horses to jump better..hedgehog skins were wrapped round the top bar to presumably remind the horse for an extra few incheshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28504793/there-is-surely-something-seriously-and-fundamentally-wrong-with-structure-of?post_id=509888407#509888407Re BD's comment..I remember years ago a program that showed how a ceratin show jumper/trainer got his horses to jump better..hedgehog skins were wrapped round the top bar to presumably remind the horse for an extra few inchesWed, 12 Oct 2011 04:26:54 -0500barry, I rest my case.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28504793/there-is-surely-something-seriously-and-fundamentally-wrong-with-structure-of?post_id=509888177#509888177barry, I rest my case.Wed, 12 Oct 2011 04:14:33 -0500race tuesday to saturday only, love it , wont happen.regarding cruelty to horses back stage, as an 18 year old worked for a show jumping firm (only sundays), couldn't bring meself to tell what they did to make horses jump.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28504793/there-is-surely-something-seriously-and-fundamentally-wrong-with-structure-of?post_id=509888123#509888123race tuesday to saturday only, love it , wont happen.regarding cruelty to horses back stage, as an 18 year old worked for a show jumping firm (only sundays), couldn't bring meself to tell what they did to make horses jump.Wed, 12 Oct 2011 04:11:21 -0500Barry was there not a time 40 years ago when here was a fortnights breakbetween the flat season ending and the jump season starting? People survived.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28504793/there-is-surely-something-seriously-and-fundamentally-wrong-with-structure-of?post_id=509888079#509888079Barry was there not a time 40 years ago when here was a fortnights breakbetween the flat season ending and the jump season starting? People survived.Wed, 12 Oct 2011 04:08:42 -0500Barry perhaps race 5 days a week with horses that do not need to be beaten to give theirbest than 7 with horses that do.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28504793/there-is-surely-something-seriously-and-fundamentally-wrong-with-structure-of?post_id=509888009#509888009Barry perhaps race 5 days a week with horses that do not need to be beaten to give theirbest than 7 with horses that do.Wed, 12 Oct 2011 04:05:38 -0500Pete, old son I been in stables and believe me on horses that need to be taught manners the whip can be used with sickening force, perhaps why as you say when some horses inraces catch out of the corner of their eye the whip being raised they will quhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28504793/there-is-surely-something-seriously-and-fundamentally-wrong-with-structure-of?post_id=509887949#509887949Pete, old son I been in stables and believe me on horses that need to be taught manners the whip can be used with sickening force, perhaps why as you say when some horses inraces catch out of the corner of their eye the whip being raised they will quWed, 12 Oct 2011 04:02:07 -0500wee eck, less dross, less races, less owners, less trainers, less levy, less call the whole thing offhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28504793/there-is-surely-something-seriously-and-fundamentally-wrong-with-structure-of?post_id=509887947#509887947wee eck, less dross, less races, less owners, less trainers, less levy, less call the whole thing offWed, 12 Oct 2011 04:02:06 -0500I see your point - thanks for explaining.I suppose it's possible you're right, but it would take generations of breedingto come up with stables full of genuine types... wouldn't it? I don't know enoughto say, but it sure wouldn't happen overnight.Horhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28504793/there-is-surely-something-seriously-and-fundamentally-wrong-with-structure-of?post_id=509887811#509887811I see your point - thanks for explaining.I suppose it's possible you're right, but it would take generations of breedingto come up with stables full of genuine types... wouldn't it? I don't know enoughto say, but it sure wouldn't happen overnight.HorWed, 12 Oct 2011 03:54:42 -0500What I meant to say Pete but lost the plot was this, if a lot of horses will only do their best and a bad best at that by being thrashed by a whip, perhaps in timebreeders and owners will come to realise that introducing that quality of horse tothe rhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28504793/there-is-surely-something-seriously-and-fundamentally-wrong-with-structure-of?post_id=509887723#509887723What I meant to say Pete but lost the plot was this, if a lot of horses will only do their best and a bad best at that by being thrashed by a whip, perhaps in timebreeders and owners will come to realise that introducing that quality of horse tothe rWed, 12 Oct 2011 03:48:42 -0500