New Posts For Thread: The definitive anti-whip argumenthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28500919/the-definitive-anti-whip-argumentJust in case there's someone who hasn't seen it before.Suppose we both own a horse, we race each other regularly along the beach for a grand and neutral spectators come along and bet with each other. After each race we try to agree weights to add inA sane post at last.Poor Richard Hughes BTW. Wouldn't have happened with no whip.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28500919/the-definitive-anti-whip-argument?post_id=509955571#509955571A sane post at last.Poor Richard Hughes BTW. Wouldn't have happened with no whip.Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:07:05 -0500Amusing that the arguments against the original post seem to avoid what was posted.Anybody who knows the difference between a constant and a variable should be able to see that the whip is a variable and creates more variable results.To ignore that,https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28500919/the-definitive-anti-whip-argument?post_id=509952449#509952449Amusing that the arguments against the original post seem to avoid what was posted.Anybody who knows the difference between a constant and a variable should be able to see that the whip is a variable and creates more variable results.To ignore that,Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:18:44 -0500On the number of strikes, is he saying there is no welfare issue with infinite strikes because just as animal rights groups can work down to zero they can increment his argument forever. Can't fathom what he means about "less genuine horses". Is he shttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28500919/the-definitive-anti-whip-argument?post_id=509949799#509949799On the number of strikes, is he saying there is no welfare issue with infinite strikes because just as animal rights groups can work down to zero they can increment his argument forever. Can't fathom what he means about "less genuine horses". Is he sThu, 13 Oct 2011 13:32:57 -0500There is scientific proof that there is no welfare issue with the whip. By limiting its use, racing authorities are saying that there is ie 7 strikes is preferable to 8, so along the same lines, animal rights groups could argue in court that 0 is bethttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28500919/the-definitive-anti-whip-argument?post_id=509946661#509946661There is scientific proof that there is no welfare issue with the whip. By limiting its use, racing authorities are saying that there is ie 7 strikes is preferable to 8, so along the same lines, animal rights groups could argue in court that 0 is betThu, 13 Oct 2011 12:26:00 -0500James Willoughby spot on -- for a changehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28500919/the-definitive-anti-whip-argument?post_id=509946239#509946239James Willoughby spot on -- for a changeThu, 13 Oct 2011 12:15:45 -0500Didn't hear it George. What did he say?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28500919/the-definitive-anti-whip-argument?post_id=509946225#509946225Didn't hear it George. What did he say?Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:15:26 -0500Feck, do you have a response to what James Willoughby has just said?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28500919/the-definitive-anti-whip-argument?post_id=509946175#509946175Feck, do you have a response to what James Willoughby has just said?Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:14:16 -0500Where did you get the full study yer ma?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28500919/the-definitive-anti-whip-argument?post_id=509946037#509946037Where did you get the full study yer ma?Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:11:53 -0500Feck & Andy will of course have read the research and noted that this study (funded by the RSPCA australia) looked at....wait for it.....5 races and 62 horses in those races. Statistically significant I think you'll agree. And moreover, the conclushttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28500919/the-definitive-anti-whip-argument?post_id=509945697#509945697Feck & Andy will of course have read the research and noted that this study (funded by the RSPCA australia) looked at....wait for it.....5 races and 62 horses in those races. Statistically significant I think you'll agree. And moreover, the conclusThu, 13 Oct 2011 12:04:12 -0500Aust Racing Board “Doubts Scientific Worth” Of RSPCA StudyHowever Australian Racing Board chief executive Andrew Harding cautioned: “The approach taken by the researchers was to use race footage, sectional times & placings to carry out a statishttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28500919/the-definitive-anti-whip-argument?post_id=509945573#509945573Aust Racing Board “Doubts Scientific Worth” Of RSPCA StudyHowever Australian Racing Board chief executive Andrew Harding cautioned: “The approach taken by the researchers was to use race footage, sectional times & placings to carry out a statisThu, 13 Oct 2011 12:01:16 -0500