New Posts For Thread: The new whip rules from a jockey's perspectivehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28490995/the-new-whip-rules-from-a-jockeys-perspectiveDavid Crosse http://www.lovetheraces.com/voices-of-the-races/william/blog-articles/whip-debate/?voice_tab=blogLast week took a lot of will power as I had 9 pounds to lose to ride my old favourite Snake Charmer at Fontwell. It's not always worth it buOnly problem is that if it was down to the BHA it would probably end up being a zig-zag line.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28490995/the-new-whip-rules-from-a-jockeys-perspective?post_id=509683593#509683593Only problem is that if it was down to the BHA it would probably end up being a zig-zag line.Fri, 07 Oct 2011 07:24:14 -0500pedro...agree in principle BUT...they ride QUALITY horses......the likes of Dave Crosse ride mules and donkeys by comparison.I won a few quid on both of those horses he rode and would not have done if a so called fancy dan jockey had ridden them...Thhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28490995/the-new-whip-rules-from-a-jockeys-perspective?post_id=509683395#509683395pedro...agree in principle BUT...they ride QUALITY horses......the likes of Dave Crosse ride mules and donkeys by comparison.I won a few quid on both of those horses he rode and would not have done if a so called fancy dan jockey had ridden them...ThFri, 07 Oct 2011 07:16:51 -0500....It was also great to get a winner on my 2nd ride back from my Hernia operation.And there was me thinking you didn't have the balls. How wrong can a man be?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28490995/the-new-whip-rules-from-a-jockeys-perspective?post_id=509683291#509683291....It was also great to get a winner on my 2nd ride back from my Hernia operation.And there was me thinking you didn't have the balls. How wrong can a man be?Fri, 07 Oct 2011 07:13:13 -0500We all know the real reason here lads and that it most of the jocks can barely count to 5! fallon cant even text properly or turn on a pc,holland dosnt know the difference between monopoly money and real cash.and now there being ask to count FFS.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28490995/the-new-whip-rules-from-a-jockeys-perspective?post_id=509683149#509683149We all know the real reason here lads and that it most of the jocks can barely count to 5! fallon cant even text properly or turn on a pc,holland dosnt know the difference between monopoly money and real cash.and now there being ask to count FFS.Fri, 07 Oct 2011 07:06:49 -0500always get the impression that the top French based jocks like Lemaire, Mosse, Barzalona, Soumillon etc get their horses balanced and running, and use the whip pretty sparingly. So won't be difficult for them coming here (can't remember one of them ghttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28490995/the-new-whip-rules-from-a-jockeys-perspective?post_id=509682745#509682745always get the impression that the top French based jocks like Lemaire, Mosse, Barzalona, Soumillon etc get their horses balanced and running, and use the whip pretty sparingly. So won't be difficult for them coming here (can't remember one of them gFri, 07 Oct 2011 06:51:57 -0500Id have been happier if this rule hadnt have been unilateral though, what impact will this have when we try and translate it to racing abroad??https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28490995/the-new-whip-rules-from-a-jockeys-perspective?post_id=509682555#509682555Id have been happier if this rule hadnt have been unilateral though, what impact will this have when we try and translate it to racing abroad??Fri, 07 Oct 2011 06:43:52 -0500to be honest, Dave is one of those NH jocks who would do better taking some lessons from Yogi Breisner in how to get horses to jump better than being so keen to use the whip every time one makes a mistake..... which is invariably the jock's fault.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28490995/the-new-whip-rules-from-a-jockeys-perspective?post_id=509682431#509682431to be honest, Dave is one of those NH jocks who would do better taking some lessons from Yogi Breisner in how to get horses to jump better than being so keen to use the whip every time one makes a mistake..... which is invariably the jock's fault.Fri, 07 Oct 2011 06:39:27 -0500Now this horse is the perfect example of a horse that will struggle to win from next Monday onwards under the new rules, as he needs a strong ride. I am certainly not being cruel, I am proud of the ride I gave the horse, but without the strong encourhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28490995/the-new-whip-rules-from-a-jockeys-perspective?post_id=509682179#509682179Now this horse is the perfect example of a horse that will struggle to win from next Monday onwards under the new rules, as he needs a strong ride. I am certainly not being cruel, I am proud of the ride I gave the horse, but without the strong encourFri, 07 Oct 2011 06:26:19 -0500If it's a case of one more slap of encouragement to win for what is crap prize money nowadays or a nice holiday where we can't earn any money you are going to see a lot of jockeys not giving horses a proper ride and accepting finishing 2nd. Can thishttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28490995/the-new-whip-rules-from-a-jockeys-perspective?post_id=509681869#509681869If it's a case of one more slap of encouragement to win for what is crap prize money nowadays or a nice holiday where we can't earn any money you are going to see a lot of jockeys not giving horses a proper ride and accepting finishing 2nd. Can thisFri, 07 Oct 2011 06:13:24 -0500David Crosse http://www.lovetheraces.com/voices-of-the-races/william/blog-articles/whip-debate/?voice_tab=blogLast week took a lot of will power as I had 9 pounds to lose to ride my old favourite Snake Charmer at Fontwell. It's not always worth it buhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28490995/the-new-whip-rules-from-a-jockeys-perspective?post_id=509681613#509681613David Crosse http://www.lovetheraces.com/voices-of-the-races/william/blog-articles/whip-debate/?voice_tab=blogLast week took a lot of will power as I had 9 pounds to lose to ride my old favourite Snake Charmer at Fontwell. It's not always worth it buFri, 07 Oct 2011 06:05:34 -0500