New Posts For Thread: Will The Whip Use Changes Make Some Horses Redundanthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28472847/will-the-whip-use-changes-make-some-horses-redundantThere are an awful lot of horses in racing who idle and wont give their best unless they are ridden hard which we have seen all too frequently in the past. I wonder if the changes will see jockeys adopt different riding styles in the future to comperobinlace1 06 Oct 11 11:31 "As mentioned earlier, Richard Hughes seems able to get the best out of his beasts without resorting to excessive use of the whip"Are you joking? worst jockey riding. he never gets the best out of any mount.Even by youhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28472847/will-the-whip-use-changes-make-some-horses-redundant?post_id=509388279#509388279robinlace1 06 Oct 11 11:31 "As mentioned earlier, Richard Hughes seems able to get the best out of his beasts without resorting to excessive use of the whip"Are you joking? worst jockey riding. he never gets the best out of any mount.Even by youThu, 06 Oct 2011 08:03:03 -0500I agree. crepello - In fact, I am looking forward to, hopefully, getting back to the days when jockeys rode sensibly to 'the distance' and then challenged from thereon - Just watch videos from 20 - 40 years ago - like the Brigadier Gerard/Mill Reefhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28472847/will-the-whip-use-changes-make-some-horses-redundant?post_id=509387143#509387143I agree. crepello - In fact, I am looking forward to, hopefully, getting back to the days when jockeys rode sensibly to 'the distance' and then challenged from thereon - Just watch videos from 20 - 40 years ago - like the Brigadier Gerard/Mill ReefThu, 06 Oct 2011 07:27:25 -0500In my view I think the changes will have minimal effect on the flat (the territory that I am involved in for betting purposes) - the odd rogue does get a belting eg Imperial Fong last Thursday at Warwick but few winners get hit more than 7/8 times -https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28472847/will-the-whip-use-changes-make-some-horses-redundant?post_id=509386883#509386883In my view I think the changes will have minimal effect on the flat (the territory that I am involved in for betting purposes) - the odd rogue does get a belting eg Imperial Fong last Thursday at Warwick but few winners get hit more than 7/8 times -Thu, 06 Oct 2011 07:18:04 -0500the above comment is a serious one by the wayhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28472847/will-the-whip-use-changes-make-some-horses-redundant?post_id=509385569#509385569the above comment is a serious one by the wayThu, 06 Oct 2011 06:16:08 -0500really I didn't know thathttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28472847/will-the-whip-use-changes-make-some-horses-redundant?post_id=509385547#509385547really I didn't know thatThu, 06 Oct 2011 06:14:25 -0500Fatlad 1981, the starter and the stewards have been going in to the weighing room pre race and giving the jockeys advice/warnings since time immemorial. So I'm sure they wont stop now.What effect it has ever had, phuuck knows!https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28472847/will-the-whip-use-changes-make-some-horses-redundant?post_id=509385497#509385497Fatlad 1981, the starter and the stewards have been going in to the weighing room pre race and giving the jockeys advice/warnings since time immemorial. So I'm sure they wont stop now.What effect it has ever had, phuuck knows!Thu, 06 Oct 2011 06:11:14 -0500loper 06 Oct 11 11:46 On the day, depending on the ground, the starter and senior steward will go into the weighing room before races and tell the jockeys that they must not set too suicidal a pace.-----------------------------------------------https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28472847/will-the-whip-use-changes-make-some-horses-redundant?post_id=509385383#509385383loper 06 Oct 11 11:46 On the day, depending on the ground, the starter and senior steward will go into the weighing room before races and tell the jockeys that they must not set too suicidal a pace.-----------------------------------------------Thu, 06 Oct 2011 06:06:54 -0500loper Stewards are there to make sure races are ran within the rules of racing and to make sure jockeys adhere to the rules.Starters are there to make sure the starts are fair and within the rules.Neither have jurisdiction on how races are run.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28472847/will-the-whip-use-changes-make-some-horses-redundant?post_id=509385341#509385341loper Stewards are there to make sure races are ran within the rules of racing and to make sure jockeys adhere to the rules.Starters are there to make sure the starts are fair and within the rules.Neither have jurisdiction on how races are run.Thu, 06 Oct 2011 06:05:01 -0500Mmmm there are several Jocks who i wouldnt be wanting to back on a front runner over both codes, although he gets some stick id like Eddie on the flat from the fronthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28472847/will-the-whip-use-changes-make-some-horses-redundant?post_id=509385205#509385205Mmmm there are several Jocks who i wouldnt be wanting to back on a front runner over both codes, although he gets some stick id like Eddie on the flat from the frontThu, 06 Oct 2011 05:59:32 -0500In my opinion they might as well fook the stewards off now,save a few quid in racing wages,the souless idol fookers dont want to work,no more jockey excuses for over use of the whip? if a horse hangs or is pulled out the jockeys got the excuse they chttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28472847/will-the-whip-use-changes-make-some-horses-redundant?post_id=509385141#509385141In my opinion they might as well fook the stewards off now,save a few quid in racing wages,the souless idol fookers dont want to work,no more jockey excuses for over use of the whip? if a horse hangs or is pulled out the jockeys got the excuse they cThu, 06 Oct 2011 05:55:45 -0500