New Posts For Thread: Begorra: Aidan O’Brien – Genius or Fool?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28319049/begorra-aidan-obrien-genius-or-foolPosted By: Scott Ferguson http://onlinebetting.thetote.com.au/ 03-Oct-2011 Scott Ferguson discusses the Coolmore trainer Aidan O’Brien and his mis-management of champion Australian horse So You Think There’s no denying that champion Irish trainerAlso wouldn't disagree with any of that, sgt marcel.....in response to 'Where exactly does all the gambling money in the UK go in the UK?', plenty goes to the shareholders of big bookies...capitalism over here doesnt see the bigger picture anymore, thttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28319049/begorra-aidan-obrien-genius-or-fool?post_id=509037431#509037431Also wouldn't disagree with any of that, sgt marcel.....in response to 'Where exactly does all the gambling money in the UK go in the UK?', plenty goes to the shareholders of big bookies...capitalism over here doesnt see the bigger picture anymore, tWed, 05 Oct 2011 02:13:45 -0500OK no problem duncan idaho, I did think that but was just checking.The reason I used the expression cherry-picking Sergeant Marcel regarding the sprinters is that yes some of them have come over and won but the very same horses have also been beatenhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28319049/begorra-aidan-obrien-genius-or-fool?post_id=509031143#509031143OK no problem duncan idaho, I did think that but was just checking.The reason I used the expression cherry-picking Sergeant Marcel regarding the sprinters is that yes some of them have come over and won but the very same horses have also been beatenTue, 04 Oct 2011 19:49:46 -0500sergeant, thats more like it. i agree with most of what you say!!https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28319049/begorra-aidan-obrien-genius-or-fool?post_id=508449837#508449837sergeant, thats more like it. i agree with most of what you say!!Tue, 04 Oct 2011 14:57:28 -0500It was a shame Mozart died after only one crop. I think he could have produced a few champ sprinters.It seems they use top sprint sires more for stamina laden mares instead of trying to breed out and out speedsters eg used Invincible spirit with galihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28319049/begorra-aidan-obrien-genius-or-fool?post_id=508445129#508445129It was a shame Mozart died after only one crop. I think he could have produced a few champ sprinters.It seems they use top sprint sires more for stamina laden mares instead of trying to breed out and out speedsters eg used Invincible spirit with galiTue, 04 Oct 2011 14:36:32 -0500There certainly aint many,oasis dream is providing us with stayers as well as sprinters these days,unbelievable sirehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28319049/begorra-aidan-obrien-genius-or-fool?post_id=508444547#508444547There certainly aint many,oasis dream is providing us with stayers as well as sprinters these days,unbelievable sireTue, 04 Oct 2011 14:21:24 -0500the one's i can think of are oasis dream, mozart, stravinsky and lochsong. The first 3 werent bred to be out and out sprinters and lochsong progressed through the handicap rankshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28319049/begorra-aidan-obrien-genius-or-fool?post_id=508444425#508444425the one's i can think of are oasis dream, mozart, stravinsky and lochsong. The first 3 werent bred to be out and out sprinters and lochsong progressed through the handicap ranksTue, 04 Oct 2011 14:18:01 -0500Oasis Dreamhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28319049/begorra-aidan-obrien-genius-or-fool?post_id=508444377#508444377Oasis DreamTue, 04 Oct 2011 14:16:42 -0500Can anybody name me the last proper sprinter the uk or ireland have had?ie, not a failed guineas Horse??if you fail to stay in the classic's or just not good enough at a Mile then trainers have no choice but to try them as sprinters,thats the realityhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28319049/begorra-aidan-obrien-genius-or-fool?post_id=508444043#508444043Can anybody name me the last proper sprinter the uk or ireland have had?ie, not a failed guineas Horse??if you fail to stay in the classic's or just not good enough at a Mile then trainers have no choice but to try them as sprinters,thats the realityTue, 04 Oct 2011 14:07:41 -0500I probably was being a bit haste in some of my comments. I just hear so much sh1t spoken on here. In regards to British Racing, i actually do really enjoy it, and bet on it more than aussie racing, but only due to the fact its easier to find winnershttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28319049/begorra-aidan-obrien-genius-or-fool?post_id=508443687#508443687I probably was being a bit haste in some of my comments. I just hear so much sh1t spoken on here. In regards to British Racing, i actually do really enjoy it, and bet on it more than aussie racing, but only due to the fact its easier to find winnersTue, 04 Oct 2011 13:58:15 -0500I was saying the stigma is with the big trainers and owners. They are not looking for the next champion sprinter like they do abroad, they are looking for classic winners. I absolutely loved Danehill as a stallion but my point is when the big owners/https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28319049/begorra-aidan-obrien-genius-or-fool?post_id=508441743#508441743I was saying the stigma is with the big trainers and owners. They are not looking for the next champion sprinter like they do abroad, they are looking for classic winners. I absolutely loved Danehill as a stallion but my point is when the big owners/Tue, 04 Oct 2011 13:02:51 -0500