New Posts For Thread: Graham Cunningham on Oddschecker chathttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23894258/graham-cunningham-on-oddschecker-chatThere is a live chat with him at the moment and I have to say its the most restricted, staged, controlled interaction I have seen for a long while. Try asking a serious question and you have about as much chance as getting a bet on with Bald fred.I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just telling you how it is.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23894258/graham-cunningham-on-oddschecker-chat?post_id=430715454#430715454I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just telling you how it is.Sat, 24 Apr 2010 07:26:04 -0500Mr.Angry i would go further and say that recreational punters are frightened to death of winning on a regular basis. They dont want the pressure of taking it seriously.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23894258/graham-cunningham-on-oddschecker-chat?post_id=430715450#430715450Mr.Angry i would go further and say that recreational punters are frightened to death of winning on a regular basis. They dont want the pressure of taking it seriously.Sat, 24 Apr 2010 07:24:41 -0500"brings in millions of pounds of revenue"I dont know if its your intention Angry but please dont try to convince me with the idea that taking advantage of the gullible public amounts to some soprt of social just due to the revenue it brings in. No onhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23894258/graham-cunningham-on-oddschecker-chat?post_id=430715446#430715446"brings in millions of pounds of revenue"I dont know if its your intention Angry but please dont try to convince me with the idea that taking advantage of the gullible public amounts to some soprt of social just due to the revenue it brings in. No onSat, 24 Apr 2010 07:23:34 -0500No joshuag - this situation exists because gambling is a business. In general terms in gambling you are buying a chance to win on a one-off basis, but you pay a small premium in terms of value from the betting operator for that privilege. That is howhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23894258/graham-cunningham-on-oddschecker-chat?post_id=430715442#430715442No joshuag - this situation exists because gambling is a business. In general terms in gambling you are buying a chance to win on a one-off basis, but you pay a small premium in terms of value from the betting operator for that privilege. That is howSat, 24 Apr 2010 07:13:47 -0500Mr Very Angry is both angry and correct I believehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23894258/graham-cunningham-on-oddschecker-chat?post_id=430715438#430715438Mr Very Angry is both angry and correct I believeSat, 24 Apr 2010 06:57:58 -0500Mr AngryThat state of affairs only exists because losing punters have been conditioned over the years to expect little from their betting. This topic is not just about 'getting on' but the whole package of dishonesty that percolates through bookmakinhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23894258/graham-cunningham-on-oddschecker-chat?post_id=430715434#430715434Mr AngryThat state of affairs only exists because losing punters have been conditioned over the years to expect little from their betting. This topic is not just about 'getting on' but the whole package of dishonesty that percolates through bookmakinSat, 24 Apr 2010 06:57:12 -0500I agree with that MVA which is why the absolute skanking of the once a year punters on the GN is a much more worthy cause to shout about, imo.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23894258/graham-cunningham-on-oddschecker-chat?post_id=430715430#430715430I agree with that MVA which is why the absolute skanking of the once a year punters on the GN is a much more worthy cause to shout about, imo.Sat, 24 Apr 2010 06:55:54 -0500Let's be perfectly honest - most recreational punters don't think they have a hope in hell of "beating the odds" on a long term basis, but they do think they have a chance of landing a win on a day to day basis. Bookmakers serve their needs and bothhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23894258/graham-cunningham-on-oddschecker-chat?post_id=430715426#430715426Let's be perfectly honest - most recreational punters don't think they have a hope in hell of "beating the odds" on a long term basis, but they do think they have a chance of landing a win on a day to day basis. Bookmakers serve their needs and bothSat, 24 Apr 2010 06:50:18 -0500Point being missed is that the Bookmakers built their empires on horseracings shoulders, they are now promoting other products above the sport.im not interested in who wins etc, but the perception that you can must be there, otherwise there will be ehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23894258/graham-cunningham-on-oddschecker-chat?post_id=430715422#430715422Point being missed is that the Bookmakers built their empires on horseracings shoulders, they are now promoting other products above the sport.im not interested in who wins etc, but the perception that you can must be there, otherwise there will be eSat, 24 Apr 2010 06:43:32 -0500zilzal1 24 Apr 12:22 'Something will have to give soon, probably a few racecourses'Zil - wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing imo...https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23894258/graham-cunningham-on-oddschecker-chat?post_id=430715418#430715418zilzal1 24 Apr 12:22 'Something will have to give soon, probably a few racecourses'Zil - wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing imo...Sat, 24 Apr 2010 06:38:12 -0500