New Posts For Thread: The Sawyer's handicap markhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23889454/the-sawyers-handicap-markRuns off 139 today after running off 148 at Cheltenham. Has Phil Smith dropped him 9lb in just one run or has Noel O'Brien started to reciprocate the treatment of Irish handicappers in the UK?In ireland it has a sx pound lower mark when going Right-Handed.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23889454/the-sawyers-handicap-mark?post_id=430662534#430662534In ireland it has a sx pound lower mark when going Right-Handed.Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:38:31 -0500Cheers ABD. So Noel O'Brien's changed tack then...https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23889454/the-sawyers-handicap-mark?post_id=430662530#430662530Cheers ABD. So Noel O'Brien's changed tack then...Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:35:21 -0500The Sawyer's current BHA rating is 146.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23889454/the-sawyers-handicap-mark?post_id=430662526#430662526The Sawyer's current BHA rating is 146.Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:12:08 -0500Are you sure it's the British handicapper that has dropped him Onlooker? Seems a bizarre drop after just one race...https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23889454/the-sawyers-handicap-mark?post_id=430662522#430662522Are you sure it's the British handicapper that has dropped him Onlooker? Seems a bizarre drop after just one race...Wed, 21 Apr 2010 06:52:14 -0500It WAS an over-reaction to the ASCOT race.In that race Monet's Garden 165 beat Albertas Run 163 by a comfortable length and a half - so the handicapper could, or rather did, assume that they had BOTH run exactly to their marks - The Sawyer was 3rd -https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23889454/the-sawyers-handicap-mark?post_id=430662518#430662518It WAS an over-reaction to the ASCOT race.In that race Monet's Garden 165 beat Albertas Run 163 by a comfortable length and a half - so the handicapper could, or rather did, assume that they had BOTH run exactly to their marks - The Sawyer was 3rd -Wed, 21 Apr 2010 06:46:52 -0500I don't think he knows what he's doing anyway - just comes across as an inflexible old man who hasn't got a clue!https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23889454/the-sawyers-handicap-mark?post_id=430662514#430662514I don't think he knows what he's doing anyway - just comes across as an inflexible old man who hasn't got a clue!Wed, 21 Apr 2010 05:39:16 -0500*ran OFFhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23889454/the-sawyers-handicap-mark?post_id=430662510#430662510*ran OFFWed, 21 Apr 2010 05:35:14 -0500Jmdc, British horses running here have traditionally ran of their British rating, scandalously. If this is a change of practise by the Irish handicapper, it's long overdue.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23889454/the-sawyers-handicap-mark?post_id=430662506#430662506Jmdc, British horses running here have traditionally ran of their British rating, scandalously. If this is a change of practise by the Irish handicapper, it's long overdue.Wed, 21 Apr 2010 05:35:03 -0500i missed the 2nd post on this thread but found on BHA website that the sawyer is rated 146 now so dropped 2lbs by uk handicapper.apologies for previous posts, i had not realised that. i was looking at rpost and presumed that had the uk rating.i can ohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23889454/the-sawyers-handicap-mark?post_id=430662502#430662502i missed the 2nd post on this thread but found on BHA website that the sawyer is rated 146 now so dropped 2lbs by uk handicapper.apologies for previous posts, i had not realised that. i was looking at rpost and presumed that had the uk rating.i can oWed, 21 Apr 2010 05:25:47 -0500Surely Phil Smith has nothing to do with it considering the Irish handicapper rates their horses at least 7lb below the British handicap so The Sawyer is hardly any better off.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23889454/the-sawyers-handicap-mark?post_id=430662498#430662498Surely Phil Smith has nothing to do with it considering the Irish handicapper rates their horses at least 7lb below the British handicap so The Sawyer is hardly any better off.Wed, 21 Apr 2010 05:14:35 -0500