New Posts For Thread: Ratpackhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23878702/ratpackHi Ratpack,Any chance of highlighting the GN SP fiasco in some way, in your capacity as an analyst?interested to see how the on course guys in the scottish grand national react as the shortening in the ayr gold cup had a similar vein,win only by a lot of books and the ones that lay each way are way below the odds ,the game is changing for the worshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23878702/ratpack?post_id=430539842#430539842interested to see how the on course guys in the scottish grand national react as the shortening in the ayr gold cup had a similar vein,win only by a lot of books and the ones that lay each way are way below the odds ,the game is changing for the worsMon, 12 Apr 2010 15:30:15 -0500Having got a reasonable insight into on course issues through the Rule 4 stuff I fully appreciate the problems some genuine on course bookmakers, who still try to make markets based on opinions, have.Problem is many of the newer ones are too opportunhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23878702/ratpack?post_id=430539838#430539838Having got a reasonable insight into on course issues through the Rule 4 stuff I fully appreciate the problems some genuine on course bookmakers, who still try to make markets based on opinions, have.Problem is many of the newer ones are too opportunMon, 12 Apr 2010 14:25:08 -0500- other than it will ALWAYS be in the race record books.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23878702/ratpack?post_id=430539834#430539834- other than it will ALWAYS be in the race record books.Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:23:34 -0500nothing will happenhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23878702/ratpack?post_id=430539830#430539830nothing will happenMon, 12 Apr 2010 14:19:11 -0500d)and how would the on-course books benefit from SP ?!https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23878702/ratpack?post_id=430539826#430539826d)and how would the on-course books benefit from SP ?!Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:18:03 -0500in fairness to the on course books, if you had 10/1 dont push it chalked on your board and people (one firm in particuar) were still backing it along with other horses, what would you do?I do not blame one on course book for this, they can hardly holhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23878702/ratpack?post_id=430539822#430539822in fairness to the on course books, if you had 10/1 dont push it chalked on your board and people (one firm in particuar) were still backing it along with other horses, what would you do?I do not blame one on course book for this, they can hardly holMon, 12 Apr 2010 14:17:25 -0500or d) forgotten about in two weeks timehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23878702/ratpack?post_id=430539818#430539818or d) forgotten about in two weeks timeMon, 12 Apr 2010 14:12:38 -0500Well coupled with the negative publicity from the likes of Kempton could either lead to a) industry SP's if the big firms claim they are not part of any such practice and that it is on course books b) further opportunity for exchanges to claim they shttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23878702/ratpack?post_id=430539814#430539814Well coupled with the negative publicity from the likes of Kempton could either lead to a) industry SP's if the big firms claim they are not part of any such practice and that it is on course books b) further opportunity for exchanges to claim they sMon, 12 Apr 2010 14:11:48 -0500Just one step close to Industry SPs being returned, which is what they want anyway imo.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23878702/ratpack?post_id=430539810#430539810Just one step close to Industry SPs being returned, which is what they want anyway imo.Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:09:44 -0500disagree. Will be forgotten in 2 weeks.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23878702/ratpack?post_id=430539806#430539806disagree. Will be forgotten in 2 weeks.Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:09:14 -0500