New Posts For Thread: National Disgracehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23634406/national-disgraceHave the bookies just pulled off the most brazen scalping of punters we've ever seen with their returned SPs. With margins around the 130% mark fifteen or 20 minutes before the off time, prices were consistently clipped with an eventual over round offeck. the question is too simple apparently for you to understand, or perhaps the real answer is unpalatableI understand the question perfectly well sportsadvisior. I think it's you that finds the answer unpalatable. This layer' cr@p is nothing morehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23634406/national-disgrace?post_id=430542898#430542898feck. the question is too simple apparently for you to understand, or perhaps the real answer is unpalatableI understand the question perfectly well sportsadvisior. I think it's you that finds the answer unpalatable. This layer' cr@p is nothing moreTue, 13 Apr 2010 05:11:34 -0500mginvest 12 Apr 11:15 Can't understand the JP / Jonjo "love-in" after the race. Why are we concerned as to how much he won betting on the race (if anything). He just scooped over half a million for winning the race in prizemoney to add to his countlehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23634406/national-disgrace?post_id=430542894#430542894mginvest 12 Apr 11:15 Can't understand the JP / Jonjo "love-in" after the race. Why are we concerned as to how much he won betting on the race (if anything). He just scooped over half a million for winning the race in prizemoney to add to his countleMon, 12 Apr 2010 15:26:45 -0500askari - betfair is a bookie? that has to be a joke. they are the biggest middle men in racing! isn't it the job of the horse to wear blinkers??https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23634406/national-disgrace?post_id=430542890#430542890askari - betfair is a bookie? that has to be a joke. they are the biggest middle men in racing! isn't it the job of the horse to wear blinkers??Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:24:24 -0500feck. the question is too simple apparently for you to understand, or perhaps the real answer is unpalatable. why should a layer on an exchange be treated in a different manner(tax and levy wise) to a bookmaker, also laying the same event?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23634406/national-disgrace?post_id=430542886#430542886feck. the question is too simple apparently for you to understand, or perhaps the real answer is unpalatable. why should a layer on an exchange be treated in a different manner(tax and levy wise) to a bookmaker, also laying the same event?Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:22:21 -0500Sportsadvisor 12 Apr 11:08 one further point - if i may. as an off course bookie, what I pay tax and levy on is laying horses. there's no debate going on between firms such as mine and customs and excise, or the levy boardas to what layhing means. Ihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23634406/national-disgrace?post_id=430542882#430542882Sportsadvisor 12 Apr 11:08 one further point - if i may. as an off course bookie, what I pay tax and levy on is laying horses. there's no debate going on between firms such as mine and customs and excise, or the levy boardas to what layhing means. IMon, 12 Apr 2010 15:18:32 -0500sportsadvisor, I don't see that there are layers on bf at all.Bf is a bookie and clients bet w/ it. Where it gets the money from is no one's business, so long as winners are paid out of ringfenced funds.A system of levy collectors in bed w/ layers tohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23634406/national-disgrace?post_id=430542878#430542878sportsadvisor, I don't see that there are layers on bf at all.Bf is a bookie and clients bet w/ it. Where it gets the money from is no one's business, so long as winners are paid out of ringfenced funds.A system of levy collectors in bed w/ layers toMon, 12 Apr 2010 12:37:00 -0500If racing (in the sense of a beneficiary of the levy and gpt) wants there to be competition w/ bf for the sake of the customer, it shd get behind a lower takeout toat.It will always be in the interests of private layers to charge the customer as muchhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23634406/national-disgrace?post_id=430542874#430542874If racing (in the sense of a beneficiary of the levy and gpt) wants there to be competition w/ bf for the sake of the customer, it shd get behind a lower takeout toat.It will always be in the interests of private layers to charge the customer as muchMon, 12 Apr 2010 12:34:23 -0500Excellent post F ing Idj.... If bookmakers will not compete with Betfair,why should they be protected.Like any business that offers an inferior product,they will die.What they did on sat,ripping off once a year punters.Is another example of their grehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23634406/national-disgrace?post_id=430542870#430542870Excellent post F ing Idj.... If bookmakers will not compete with Betfair,why should they be protected.Like any business that offers an inferior product,they will die.What they did on sat,ripping off once a year punters.Is another example of their greMon, 12 Apr 2010 12:18:46 -0500Adge - If you were going 16s just before the off what was everyone else offering to return it at 10s?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23634406/national-disgrace?post_id=430542866#430542866Adge - If you were going 16s just before the off what was everyone else offering to return it at 10s?Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:15:18 -0500exellent post and no doubt will be swept under the carpet by this lot on here.It's not an excellent post so why do we need to sweep it under the carpet? What makes you think the EU will take your part because you are unable to compete with betfair thhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23634406/national-disgrace?post_id=430542862#430542862exellent post and no doubt will be swept under the carpet by this lot on here.It's not an excellent post so why do we need to sweep it under the carpet? What makes you think the EU will take your part because you are unable to compete with betfair thMon, 12 Apr 2010 11:14:08 -0500