New Posts For Thread: Racecourse Standard Timeshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23591902/racecourse-standard-timesCan anyone tell me where I can view online, a complete list of standard times.Nick needs to update that book, its ancient. His theory that use standard times on Good or faster is QUITE difficult in Irish NH....where its usually bottomless and the rails are moved so much only the Good Lord knows what distance theyre running ovehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23591902/racecourse-standard-times?post_id=422669794#422669794Nick needs to update that book, its ancient. His theory that use standard times on Good or faster is QUITE difficult in Irish NH....where its usually bottomless and the rails are moved so much only the Good Lord knows what distance theyre running oveSun, 04 Apr 2010 09:31:13 -0500You may be being a little harsh there. Over time peoples perceptions can, and do, change. Though I am aware of Nick Mordin, and read his book Mordin On Time in 1996, I don't use his ratings.To be honest, even though I am now compiling my own speed fihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23591902/racecourse-standard-times?post_id=422669786#422669786You may be being a little harsh there. Over time peoples perceptions can, and do, change. Though I am aware of Nick Mordin, and read his book Mordin On Time in 1996, I don't use his ratings.To be honest, even though I am now compiling my own speed fiSun, 04 Apr 2010 09:23:54 -0500Note also that Mordin stated repeatedly that sectional times were meaningless......until the point when he realised that he could get plenty of material out of writing about them.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23591902/racecourse-standard-times?post_id=422669750#422669750Note also that Mordin stated repeatedly that sectional times were meaningless......until the point when he realised that he could get plenty of material out of writing about them.Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:45:32 -0500RamrunaI know a trainer who always times his horses on his gallops. However he only times the final 2 furlongs. He also has a theory that any horse can win a race providing it can do 25 seconds or better for the two furlongs. It is then a case of worhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23591902/racecourse-standard-times?post_id=422669714#422669714RamrunaI know a trainer who always times his horses on his gallops. However he only times the final 2 furlongs. He also has a theory that any horse can win a race providing it can do 25 seconds or better for the two furlongs. It is then a case of worSun, 04 Apr 2010 07:42:06 -0500Note that Mordin has decided:1) that gravity does not affect racehorsesand more importantly:2) that his methods do not work in NH racing (and if you look at his site he now bases his ratings on sectional timing of the last couple of furlongs).https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23591902/racecourse-standard-times?post_id=422669694#422669694Note that Mordin has decided:1) that gravity does not affect racehorsesand more importantly:2) that his methods do not work in NH racing (and if you look at his site he now bases his ratings on sectional timing of the last couple of furlongs).Sun, 04 Apr 2010 07:21:23 -0500Yes I know, to my cost.MitchStandard Times show how fast a horse should take to cover every distance at every racecourse. Don't think of them as average times, rather times that set the standard.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23591902/racecourse-standard-times?post_id=422669674#422669674Yes I know, to my cost.MitchStandard Times show how fast a horse should take to cover every distance at every racecourse. Don't think of them as average times, rather times that set the standard.Sun, 04 Apr 2010 07:03:26 -0500was thinking of having a go myself and just dusted down "Mordin on Time"...i think he must have changed his methods since the book as he talks about ratings in the 60s and 70s where on his site 40 is a good figure.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23591902/racecourse-standard-times?post_id=422669670#422669670was thinking of having a go myself and just dusted down "Mordin on Time"...i think he must have changed his methods since the book as he talks about ratings in the 60s and 70s where on his site 40 is a good figure.Sun, 04 Apr 2010 07:02:07 -0500carefull ......they change the course ........take out fences .....hurdles .....etchttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23591902/racecourse-standard-times?post_id=422669662#422669662carefull ......they change the course ........take out fences .....hurdles .....etcSun, 04 Apr 2010 06:58:13 -0500Mitch, I like topspeed to be honest. But I am now compiling my own.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23591902/racecourse-standard-times?post_id=422669658#422669658Mitch, I like topspeed to be honest. But I am now compiling my own.Sun, 04 Apr 2010 06:56:59 -0500At Musselboro over 2m the RP standard is 3m 25s. The record however is 3m 26.6s.....eh?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23591902/racecourse-standard-times?post_id=422669654#422669654At Musselboro over 2m the RP standard is 3m 25s. The record however is 3m 26.6s.....eh?Sun, 04 Apr 2010 06:56:48 -0500