Ayr Gold Cup

i you were riding a racer bike in a peloton much larger on your side than the others then youd travel into the race nicely and have a good chance . in a slog i dont think that comes into it . i will rule out draw . i reckon the winner will be a 3 or 4yo whom is gonna be exposed to the trench like conditions for the first time , whom might excel

you and i may well think this is mental but brian the snail at 44.0 has got my fiver

On Growl AP @ 16s and a small ew on  Brian the Snail at 40s

i dawned on me that colts are much heavier / more powerful on the shoulder than geldings / fillies with that in mind i won on the 2.40 so have backed out of brian the snail and am on son of rest and staxton . best of luck

It's incorrect to say colts are much heavier/more powerful than geldings and as for fillies racing history is awash fast ones.

Speed doesn't come from the shoulder either.

andrew i,m just a punter , i have heard it said though and felt that it would help to power through the testing ground rather than add speed to a horse

imo its power that gets through slow ground fastest over natural speed

also i would disagree and say colts are heavier and more powerful than same size , age geldings and fillies . anyone around the horses on a regular basis have a opinion on this ?

gpz6316,

The initial part of a horse stride starts in the hind quarters (where the primary mass of muscles are) the further a horse can swing the rear legs forward (the reach) and hit the ground running the greater the thrust and as a consequence results in more speed.

There are many other muscles used to a lesser extent including the croup, hip and back to support this thrust movement. The forelegs (assisted by the shoulders) also propel the horse forward, stride length is determined by conformation of the shoulder.

Good balance is also an essential ingredient of speed, but overall conformation of the horse is also very important.

A gelding is simply a colt who has been castrated, it's incorrect to say one is heavier than the other.

Fillies/mares are generally smaller of course, but it doesn't make them necessarily slower sprinters. Look at Black Cavier, Winx, Lyric Fantasy, Meccas Angel and Tiggy Wiggy to name a few who have beaten their male counterparts.

the flying five form was easily the best form going into the race, with the winner able to run off 101,
handicap mark is due to go up 10 lbs for future races after that group 1 2nd. all the action was in the
silver cup with last seasons FSS red jazz's number 1 money maker taking the spoils.

i wont make a hatchet job of that andrew lets just leave it at that and say were on different wavelengths