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Lucky Bubbles the obvious one for the Sprint at this stage. Important to remember how strong the HK sprinters are on home soil.
Jack Hobbs is available at 33/1 for the Vase. Gosden's most recent comments indicate that it is a distinct possibility he will go. If that's the case, what is he, a 6/1 shot?
Maurice seems to have Mile and Cup options. Tepin an interesting possibility for the Mile. Best horse in the race last night IMO.
Lucky Bubbles the obvious one for the Sprint at this stage. Important to remember how strong the HK sprinters are on home soil.
Jack Hobbs is available at 33/1 for the Vase. Gosden's most recent comments indicate that it is a distinct possibility he will go. If that's the case, what is he, a 6/1 shot?
Maurice seems to have Mile and Cup options. Tepin an interesting possibility for the Mile. Best horse in the race last night IMO.
love these races- getting harder though to work out.
So many Japanese runners that are hard to take a view on - plenty of unexposed types in all of the races im sure.
Anyone have any knowledge of a site in reference to looking up their runners i.e equivalent to racing post or alike
So many Japanese runners that are hard to take a view on - plenty of unexposed types in all of the races im sure.
Anyone have any knowledge of a site in reference to looking up their runners i.e equivalent to racing post or alike
Trainers to look out for in the mile and Cup - local trainers who have great records in these races
John Size
John Moore
A Schutz
A S Cruz
Other notable Trainers who have history around there -
P F Yiu
C Fownes
R Gibson
Sprints have notoriously been won by Aussie imports - but in the last 5 years there has been a change but im always aware of Aussie/NZ bred sprinters when being trained by the local trainers - i also see the Aussie trainer Chris Waller has a few entered
John Size
John Moore
A Schutz
A S Cruz
Other notable Trainers who have history around there -
P F Yiu
C Fownes
R Gibson
Sprints have notoriously been won by Aussie imports - but in the last 5 years there has been a change but im always aware of Aussie/NZ bred sprinters when being trained by the local trainers - i also see the Aussie trainer Chris Waller has a few entered
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Trials this weekend chaps - AF making a comeback
I think the sprint is there for Aerovelocity if he stays fit. Maurice could be heading for the cup and Highland Reel will be difficult to beat in the vase.
Trials this weekend chaps - AF making a comeback
I think the sprint is there for Aerovelocity if he stays fit. Maurice could be heading for the cup and Highland Reel will be difficult to beat in the vase.
Hope you are all doing well lads.
The big international G1 races have been coming thick and fast this month, cannot believe how quick this meeting creeps up on us but here we are again.
Looking forward to see how the big fella gets on tomorrow, he looked like he has lost none of his zest in the barrier trial, travelling strongly, I was pretty impressed with him considering how long he's been off. Able Friend will have to be on his A game up against some top class sprinters which include my new favourite HK horse Lucky Bubbles, hopefully his bubble will not burst!
The Japanese look like they will be sending over their biggest amount of runners ever for this meeting and the HK Cup looks like it will be chock-full of them, it will almost be the Tenno Sho (Autumn) Volume 2 if Maurice does line up. Queens Ring, the winner of last weeks QEII Cup (G1) is a confirmed runner with Mirco Demuro riding. She could be the dark horse in the HK Cup, improved runner this year and she has a very good turn of foot. My old pal Staphanos ran another cracker in the Tenno Sho (Autumn) 3rd behind Maurice, given too much to do from a wide draw like last year (backed him both times). He will have the services of Christophe Soumillon (confirmed runner/booking earlier this week). Staph will more than likely be my bet again this year but I will wait for the draw this time.
Japanese runners for the HK Cup:
A Shin Hikari
Maurice (HK Mile an option)
Lovely Day
Staphanos
Queens Ring
Big Arthur and Red Flax are the Japanese runners to look out for in the Sprint. Big Arthur didn't get a great ride in the Sprinter Stakes which Red Flax won but I was very impressed with BA's win earlier this year at Chukyo, powered home in a very quick time. He's one I will be keeping an eye on. The HK sprinters will be tough to beat though and as we all know the draw will be key.
Anyone have any knowledge of a site in reference to looking up their runners i.e equivalent to racing post or alike
Link below Rozelkid, very good website that has had an update/redesign. Videos, form and news available... all free.
www.japanracing.jp
The big international G1 races have been coming thick and fast this month, cannot believe how quick this meeting creeps up on us but here we are again.
Looking forward to see how the big fella gets on tomorrow, he looked like he has lost none of his zest in the barrier trial, travelling strongly, I was pretty impressed with him considering how long he's been off. Able Friend will have to be on his A game up against some top class sprinters which include my new favourite HK horse Lucky Bubbles, hopefully his bubble will not burst!
The Japanese look like they will be sending over their biggest amount of runners ever for this meeting and the HK Cup looks like it will be chock-full of them, it will almost be the Tenno Sho (Autumn) Volume 2 if Maurice does line up. Queens Ring, the winner of last weeks QEII Cup (G1) is a confirmed runner with Mirco Demuro riding. She could be the dark horse in the HK Cup, improved runner this year and she has a very good turn of foot. My old pal Staphanos ran another cracker in the Tenno Sho (Autumn) 3rd behind Maurice, given too much to do from a wide draw like last year (backed him both times). He will have the services of Christophe Soumillon (confirmed runner/booking earlier this week). Staph will more than likely be my bet again this year but I will wait for the draw this time.
Japanese runners for the HK Cup:
A Shin Hikari
Maurice (HK Mile an option)
Lovely Day
Staphanos
Queens Ring
Big Arthur and Red Flax are the Japanese runners to look out for in the Sprint. Big Arthur didn't get a great ride in the Sprinter Stakes which Red Flax won but I was very impressed with BA's win earlier this year at Chukyo, powered home in a very quick time. He's one I will be keeping an eye on. The HK sprinters will be tough to beat though and as we all know the draw will be key.
Anyone have any knowledge of a site in reference to looking up their runners i.e equivalent to racing post or alike
Link below Rozelkid, very good website that has had an update/redesign. Videos, form and news available... all free.
www.japanracing.jp
All good Mr D - hope all is well with you.
One for me in the trials is Sun Jewellery, hopefully he's back to his best - I see he's 6-1 in the UK so I'll have a bet on that as I can't see him being bigger on HKJC
One for me in the trials is Sun Jewellery, hopefully he's back to his best - I see he's 6-1 in the UK so I'll have a bet on that as I can't see him being bigger on HKJC
Thanks Dinos,
I use that website all the time.
Im absolutely gutted i didn't back John Moore's "Not Listenin'tome (AUS)" last night - wrote it down and had my head in my hands when i work up this morning and see the result.
You cant go wrong backing the trainers , that ive mentioned above, around Sha Tin.
Going to be interesting to see which of those Japanese entries are going to putting up a show this year - so hard sussing them out.
I use that website all the time.
Im absolutely gutted i didn't back John Moore's "Not Listenin'tome (AUS)" last night - wrote it down and had my head in my hands when i work up this morning and see the result.
You cant go wrong backing the trainers , that ive mentioned above, around Sha Tin.
Going to be interesting to see which of those Japanese entries are going to putting up a show this year - so hard sussing them out.
I use that site Dinos- but im struggling to see the use of it apart from the standard "news" section - i cant navigate my way to form , trainers, individual horses "search"..... like the racing post
Not Listenin'tome has become a bit of a frustrating horse this year. I backed him on Dubai World Cup night when he never got into that race (drawn wrong side) and he hasn't really ran that great in any of his races since. Bit of a surprise how well he ran today but he is a horse with ability. Lucky Bubbles ran fantastic from well off the pace and was closest at the finish. Very consistent sprinter, hopefully he will be a bit bigger price on the day! Able Friend also ran well after a long layoff, the HK Mile would be the best option IMO.
Sun Jewellery ran a cracker HK, I thought he had it won for you but got mowed down near the line... very close.
The HK Cup looks like it will be going back to Japan again this year, not sure what to make of the Jockey Club Cup today.
Try the link below Rozelkid, this might be better for you!?
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/
Sun Jewellery ran a cracker HK, I thought he had it won for you but got mowed down near the line... very close.
The HK Cup looks like it will be going back to Japan again this year, not sure what to make of the Jockey Club Cup today.
Try the link below Rozelkid, this might be better for you!?
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/
Mr D - I backed Notlistnen last run......
Happy with Sun Jewellery, but also very happy with Contentment (my ew bet) as he's one of my favourite HK horses, he gave them 5lb today and was running on again after hitting a flat spot, he ran a stinker previous run. Hope AF comes out of the run clean, that should put him right and on track for the Mile, he also doesn't seem to like being in among horses so it was a good run.
The Cup race was a weird result but the time was very good so it could prove to be a good horse who is improving and he did quicken up nicely. He did run a decent race in a G1 last season when beaten 2 1/4 lengths by DOR over 2000m though today could have been his big target and he was trained for it whereas the others were getting a run under their belt (Military Attack) , can't really see anything to beat Maurice coming out of it though. Could see DOR, BS and MA in the Vase now.
I agree re Lucky Bubbles, I also think he ran on the part of the track today that was slowest, there seemed to me to be a slight bias about 3 or 4 off the rail, think he's the best HK chance.
Happy with Sun Jewellery, but also very happy with Contentment (my ew bet) as he's one of my favourite HK horses, he gave them 5lb today and was running on again after hitting a flat spot, he ran a stinker previous run. Hope AF comes out of the run clean, that should put him right and on track for the Mile, he also doesn't seem to like being in among horses so it was a good run.
The Cup race was a weird result but the time was very good so it could prove to be a good horse who is improving and he did quicken up nicely. He did run a decent race in a G1 last season when beaten 2 1/4 lengths by DOR over 2000m though today could have been his big target and he was trained for it whereas the others were getting a run under their belt (Military Attack) , can't really see anything to beat Maurice coming out of it though. Could see DOR, BS and MA in the Vase now.
I agree re Lucky Bubbles, I also think he ran on the part of the track today that was slowest, there seemed to me to be a slight bias about 3 or 4 off the rail, think he's the best HK chance.
Mr D - I backed Notlistnen last run......
Very frustrating HK... Strathmore is another one I will be keeping an eye on, first run after a long break today and it sounded like he was on the porky side. His weight should be bang on next time in the HK Sprint, he's not far behind the best of these!
Yep, Contentment will be on the short list for the HK Mile, good run today.
The form was turned up side down in the Jockey Club Cup, probably best not to take the result of the race too seriously. As you mentioned HK, today was not the main objective for the golden oldies!!!
Very frustrating HK... Strathmore is another one I will be keeping an eye on, first run after a long break today and it sounded like he was on the porky side. His weight should be bang on next time in the HK Sprint, he's not far behind the best of these!
Yep, Contentment will be on the short list for the HK Mile, good run today.
The form was turned up side down in the Jockey Club Cup, probably best not to take the result of the race too seriously. As you mentioned HK, today was not the main objective for the golden oldies!!!
The fields for the races will be announced this Wednesday.
I like the 9-4 Maurice with B365 for the cup. The sprint and mile are a puzzle, I think I may back AF for whichever race he turns up for on the day, nothing pre raceday/draw for either race at the moment after yesterday!
Highland Reel if he goes Vase, but Heartbreak City is an interesting runner in that race.
I like the 9-4 Maurice with B365 for the cup. The sprint and mile are a puzzle, I think I may back AF for whichever race he turns up for on the day, nothing pre raceday/draw for either race at the moment after yesterday!
Highland Reel if he goes Vase, but Heartbreak City is an interesting runner in that race.
Mr D - I see you've now got co-mingling into the JC pools via the tote. is it only for HV and do you see it live?
I didn't back anything last week HK but it looks like we will get Live broadcasts for all Happy Valley and Sha Tin races... Exciting times.
Betfred, Coral and Ladbrokes punters in the UK will be able to place bets on the pari-mutuel pools in Hong Kong, following an agreement between the Hong Kong Jockey Club (HKJC) and the UK Tote.
The bookmakers will accept bets both online and in betting shops for the HKJC’s tote pools, although fixed-odds betting will not be available. SIS will distribute the live broadcasts.
Richard Cheung, HKJC’s Executive Director, said: “Given its tremendous legacy in the sport of horseracing, it is a great pleasure to welcome the UK to our expanding list of co-mingling jurisdictions.
“While we are certain that UK racing fans will be attracted to the world-class racing, especially with our Longines Hong Kong International Races looming on Sunday, December 11, our midweek racing, often at Happy Valley, is a perfect midday option for customers.â€
The HKJC anticipates making more agreements with UK operators in the coming months, as its co-mingling director George Irvine commented: “A high street presence is a must in the UK market, and this agreement will enable some of the world’s finest racing fans to participate in the excitement of Hong Kong’s competitive racing.
“This deal ensures Hong Kong racing will be available in thousands of retail betting outlets, while future agreements we are finalising will enable delivery direct to millions of UK households. Meanwhile, the placement of Hong Kong race cards in the Racing Post will reliably inform punters in a familiar style.â€
Betfred, Coral and Ladbrokes punters in the UK will be able to place bets on the pari-mutuel pools in Hong Kong, following an agreement between the Hong Kong Jockey Club (HKJC) and the UK Tote.
The bookmakers will accept bets both online and in betting shops for the HKJC’s tote pools, although fixed-odds betting will not be available. SIS will distribute the live broadcasts.
Richard Cheung, HKJC’s Executive Director, said: “Given its tremendous legacy in the sport of horseracing, it is a great pleasure to welcome the UK to our expanding list of co-mingling jurisdictions.
“While we are certain that UK racing fans will be attracted to the world-class racing, especially with our Longines Hong Kong International Races looming on Sunday, December 11, our midweek racing, often at Happy Valley, is a perfect midday option for customers.â€
The HKJC anticipates making more agreements with UK operators in the coming months, as its co-mingling director George Irvine commented: “A high street presence is a must in the UK market, and this agreement will enable some of the world’s finest racing fans to participate in the excitement of Hong Kong’s competitive racing.
“This deal ensures Hong Kong racing will be available in thousands of retail betting outlets, while future agreements we are finalising will enable delivery direct to millions of UK households. Meanwhile, the placement of Hong Kong race cards in the Racing Post will reliably inform punters in a familiar style.â€
Sha Tin will be early in the a.m.!!!
Good luck with any bets.....I don't need to tell you where to find the decent form guides or who to look out for!!
Just doing the form for tomorrow, C+3 course so it's best to watch to see how the course is running from the early races, that would be my only advice for HV. Plus recently in the C5 races early n the card if magic man is on one that you can't work out why they are favourite or a shorter price than they should be - they do invariably win. Whyte hasn't ridden a winner for 18 rides and Callan for 31.
Good luck with any bets.....I don't need to tell you where to find the decent form guides or who to look out for!!
Just doing the form for tomorrow, C+3 course so it's best to watch to see how the course is running from the early races, that would be my only advice for HV. Plus recently in the C5 races early n the card if magic man is on one that you can't work out why they are favourite or a shorter price than they should be - they do invariably win. Whyte hasn't ridden a winner for 18 rides and Callan for 31.
Good stuff HK, I will keep a closer eye on the races from Happy Valley now. 
Mr D - I like R7 and R8 tomorrow, but it all depends on how the track is running and if there's a bias away from the rail.
JM's ride in R7 EW as he should get a good run from trap 1 and get a run up the rail in the straight as they all fan out round the bend to the home straight (EW if he stays at the current price).
The 11 in R8 also EW as he's drawn well and could get a decent position in the run, danger is agin the JM horse if they are running on as there should be a good pace on and he'll be finishing down the middle if he gets a clear run from gate 10 - not always guaranteed on the C+3 course.
JM's ride in R7 EW as he should get a good run from trap 1 and get a run up the rail in the straight as they all fan out round the bend to the home straight (EW if he stays at the current price).
The 11 in R8 also EW as he's drawn well and could get a decent position in the run, danger is agin the JM horse if they are running on as there should be a good pace on and he'll be finishing down the middle if he gets a clear run from gate 10 - not always guaranteed on the C+3 course.
Good luck with your bets tomorrow HK, I think I will keep my powder dry until the HKIR... those handicaps look tricky! 
http://campaign.hkjc.com/en/hkir/feature.aspx?in_file=hkir_road_201611230160...
This meeting gets better and better, all races look very competitive... some interesting French runners!
Think it could be a clean sweep for overseas runners this year
There looks to be a lot of pace in the Sprint, I will be backing a couple of HK runners in this one... I think!!
Hahaha - my selection n R7 tonight has lost all value, it's been steadily backed all day. Was 7.2 this morning and is now 3.2.......no bet
I like - Maurice, Highland Reel and then fook knows!
Military Attack has a leg issue so watch the bets if you fancy him
I like - Maurice, Highland Reel and then fook knows!
Military Attack has a leg issue so watch the bets if you fancy him
The races for HKIR look as tough as those at Happy Valley tonight. Track bias and pace of races will play a big part in a few weeks time... I'm going to try and be patient with my betting this year but that will not be easy looking at some of the early prices!
Nuovo Record is running at DEL MAR tomorrow - in the Red Carpet Stakes - a bizzare entry imo
I agree Dinos - interesting french runners in the vase.
This Nuovo Record is a nemesis of mine - i backed her at Santa Anita last time out and the trainer said she didn't even have a race.
I dont accept that and i think she is a mare who is now on a downward slope - i will however back her tomorrow at DEL MAR as its a race that she should win on ratings and who she is racing against- the morning line price is 3/1 on equibase.
http://www.equibase.com/static/entry/DMR112416USA7-EQB.html
This Nuovo Record is a nemesis of mine - i backed her at Santa Anita last time out and the trainer said she didn't even have a race.
I dont accept that and i think she is a mare who is now on a downward slope - i will however back her tomorrow at DEL MAR as its a race that she should win on ratings and who she is racing against- the morning line price is 3/1 on equibase.
http://www.equibase.com/static/entry/DMR112416USA7-EQB.html
Never been a fan of Nuovo HK, she has been disappointing since last years HK Cup... looks to me like she has had enough of racing. Agree Roz, surprised she has an entry for the Vase.
One Foot In Heaven at 33-1 is tempting me at the moment but that's more to do with his mom. Pride was a favourite of mine.
One Foot In Heaven at 33-1 is tempting me at the moment but that's more to do with his mom. Pride was a favourite of mine.
Nuovo Record wins Red Carpet Handicap, heads to Hong Kong Vase
managed to get the 6/1.
Only just got up in a photo
managed to get the 6/1.
Only just got up in a photo
Well done with your bet Roz. Nuovo made it hard work in that G3 at Del Mar... but she got her head in front at the right time. I've still got my doubts about her!
I've backed One Foot In Heaven at 33-1 EW, hopefully he runs as well as his mom did at Sha Tin.
I've backed One Foot In Heaven at 33-1 EW, hopefully he runs as well as his mom did at Sha Tin.
Takedown is an interesting addition to the sprint race
http://campaign.hkjc.com/en/hkir/feature.aspx?in_file=hkir_road_201612020105...
The link is not working for me HK... get 'The page is currently unavailable' message.
I was impressed with Able Friend's latest Barrier Trial, looks like the big fella is back to me... still got it!
Done the double (BWay) with Able Friend and Lucky Bubbles and added Strathmore in the HK Sprint at 33-1 EW (should have took the 50-1!!!). I would have backed Signs Of Blessing EW (backed him a number of times over last 3 years) but the HK Sprint looks like it will be run at a frantic pace and SOB will be taken on by a number of horses for the lead. I think this race will be set-up for a closer... Lucky Bubbles and Strathmore are the two for me. Jenny Chapman's paddock analysis of Strathmore before the Jockey Club Sprint has stuck in my head, he should come on a lot for his last run... which wasn't too shabby. I will have another dabble after the draw.
A fair few of the international horses have already arrived in HK, cannot wait for next week.
I was impressed with Able Friend's latest Barrier Trial, looks like the big fella is back to me... still got it!
Done the double (BWay) with Able Friend and Lucky Bubbles and added Strathmore in the HK Sprint at 33-1 EW (should have took the 50-1!!!). I would have backed Signs Of Blessing EW (backed him a number of times over last 3 years) but the HK Sprint looks like it will be run at a frantic pace and SOB will be taken on by a number of horses for the lead. I think this race will be set-up for a closer... Lucky Bubbles and Strathmore are the two for me. Jenny Chapman's paddock analysis of Strathmore before the Jockey Club Sprint has stuck in my head, he should come on a lot for his last run... which wasn't too shabby. I will have another dabble after the draw.
A fair few of the international horses have already arrived in HK, cannot wait for next week.
selections
sprint = lucky bubbles..........been the best sprint horse in HK in 2016........very consistent. some good japanese horses in here
mile = able friend ran well over 6f last time off a long lay off. backing him to return to old glories
cup = i am against the fav here, maurice.........everything went right for him over 10f in japan last time..........i firmly believe he is an 8f horse and he should be running in the mile......i dont know what to put up against him and its a no bet race for me
vase = highland reel..........this looks a penalty kick
sprint = lucky bubbles..........been the best sprint horse in HK in 2016........very consistent. some good japanese horses in here
mile = able friend ran well over 6f last time off a long lay off. backing him to return to old glories
cup = i am against the fav here, maurice.........everything went right for him over 10f in japan last time..........i firmly believe he is an 8f horse and he should be running in the mile......i dont know what to put up against him and its a no bet race for me
vase = highland reel..........this looks a penalty kick
Mr D - you read my mind about AF.....but, he may bet a little too short now for me, I expect him to be near to fav on the day, I'm hoping he gets an outside draw as I think he does enjoy space and not being in among horses. Also beware of the other Moore horse in the race, he's had a better prep than AF and maybe should have won the recent trial race.
I thought Sun Jewellery looked to be coming nicely into form too so he may be the overlooked horse.
In the sprint Notlistnen also looked very well in the trial with AF, I think he's over priced at the moment considering his last run. It's definitely going to come down to the draw for this so I'm waiting until Thursday.
Highland Reel does look like the open goal, but they can miss (Kevin De Bruyne, Ronnie Rosenthal......), I think a live one is Helene Happy Star, he seems to be coming to hand nicely and 2400m will definitely suit him and at 20-1 you'll get a good run for the money.
The Cup I think one of my old favs could run well - Blazing Speed also at 20-1 ew but think the 1st place could go to A Shin again, he's too big a price to ignore.
More mind changes to follow during the week
http://campaign.hkjc.com/en/hkir/vase-contenders.aspx
I thought Sun Jewellery looked to be coming nicely into form too so he may be the overlooked horse.
In the sprint Notlistnen also looked very well in the trial with AF, I think he's over priced at the moment considering his last run. It's definitely going to come down to the draw for this so I'm waiting until Thursday.
Highland Reel does look like the open goal, but they can miss (Kevin De Bruyne, Ronnie Rosenthal......), I think a live one is Helene Happy Star, he seems to be coming to hand nicely and 2400m will definitely suit him and at 20-1 you'll get a good run for the money.
The Cup I think one of my old favs could run well - Blazing Speed also at 20-1 ew but think the 1st place could go to A Shin again, he's too big a price to ignore.
More mind changes to follow during the week
http://campaign.hkjc.com/en/hkir/vase-contenders.aspx
It will be interesting to hear what John Moore has to say about Able Friend during the week, the vibes seemed good after his Barrier Trial... visually impressive.
The HK Mile looks wide open IMO, Helene Paragon was the unlucky one in the Jockey Club Mile. He got no run just when he was about to attack, he lost his momentum at the wrong time but finished very well. Agree with you HK regarding Contentment, he is the other one I like EW, both are 16-1 at the moment.
The majority of the Japanese horses in all the races offer no great value, the bookies are being very tight IMO. I will take on Maurice again, agree with BDJ, he got the run of the race in the Tenno Sho (Autumn). Designs On Rome is a big price if you ignore his last run, I think John Moore might have been soft on him after his Sha Tin Trophy win. He ran tough in that Mile win which was impressive, at the current prices he is the one for me EW. A Shin Hikari had another meltdown moment at Tokyo before the Tenno Sho (Autumn), he is very hard to predict!!! I've never backed him and it will stay that way. Hopefully Staphanos will drift on the day and finally get a good draw... Soummy might make the difference on him!
The HK Mile looks wide open IMO, Helene Paragon was the unlucky one in the Jockey Club Mile. He got no run just when he was about to attack, he lost his momentum at the wrong time but finished very well. Agree with you HK regarding Contentment, he is the other one I like EW, both are 16-1 at the moment.
The majority of the Japanese horses in all the races offer no great value, the bookies are being very tight IMO. I will take on Maurice again, agree with BDJ, he got the run of the race in the Tenno Sho (Autumn). Designs On Rome is a big price if you ignore his last run, I think John Moore might have been soft on him after his Sha Tin Trophy win. He ran tough in that Mile win which was impressive, at the current prices he is the one for me EW. A Shin Hikari had another meltdown moment at Tokyo before the Tenno Sho (Autumn), he is very hard to predict!!! I've never backed him and it will stay that way. Hopefully Staphanos will drift on the day and finally get a good draw... Soummy might make the difference on him!
What a comeback and win by your boys HK... unbelievable.
Quite unbelievable MR D - especially when they didn't have a single attempt on goal in the 1st half! I'm slightly disappointed as I backed them at ko to win at 4.75!!
Funny old game HK. 
Took the 16-1 EW Designs On Rome, too big with the Magic Man onboard.
Took the 16-1 EW Designs On Rome, too big with the Magic Man onboard.
There is a cracking undercard on Sunday with the possible stars of next year running in 3 races - Jing Jing Win, Pakistan Star and Mr Stunning ones to watch.
One Foot in Heaven under a cloud with a blood abnormality
Brilliant... what a great start that is!
Added Helene Paragon in the HK Mile 16-1 EW. That's me done until the draw!!!
Added Helene Paragon in the HK Mile 16-1 EW. That's me done until the draw!!!
I was walking through Central from a meeting and walked straight by John Moore with his son, it didn't register until too late - kicking myself for not stopping and asking a few questions!
Afternoon chaps. A bit late to this thread this year, but been reading all the previews online avidly!
Have had to back Able Friend at 11-2... seems too good to be true and an ew bet to nothing. Would be brilliant to see the big fella back! Agree that Designs on Rome is a crazy price at 16-1 if you can forgive him last run. Have added Lucky Bubbles at 4/1 and done an EW Trixie on those three
Have had to back Able Friend at 11-2... seems too good to be true and an ew bet to nothing. Would be brilliant to see the big fella back! Agree that Designs on Rome is a crazy price at 16-1 if you can forgive him last run. Have added Lucky Bubbles at 4/1 and done an EW Trixie on those three
How lucky were the HK sprinters with that draw!!! There's going to be a very very fast pace on!
Can't decide between Bubbles and Notlistnen.
Helene Paragon in the mile (with AF too)
Highland Reel with Helene Happy Star
Cup - Blazing speed/Staphanos ew with A-Shin
Can't decide between Bubbles and Notlistnen.
Helene Paragon in the mile (with AF too)
Highland Reel with Helene Happy Star
Cup - Blazing speed/Staphanos ew with A-Shin
Yep, the draw has been kind for a change HK... couldn't really ask for better in the Sprint. Pretty happy with the draw for all my ante post bets, lucky so far!
Sprint: Lucky Bubbles 4-1 and Strathmore 33-1/40-1 EW
Mile: Able Friend 6-1 and Helene Paragon 16-1 EW
Cup: Designs On Rome 16-1 EW and Staphanos EW (waiting for a better price).
Vase: One Foot In Heaven 33-1 EW
Sprint: Lucky Bubbles 4-1 and Strathmore 33-1/40-1 EW
Mile: Able Friend 6-1 and Helene Paragon 16-1 EW
Cup: Designs On Rome 16-1 EW and Staphanos EW (waiting for a better price).
Vase: One Foot In Heaven 33-1 EW
I'm probably going to regret this but I think DOR may be gone now - at the top level that is having watched his last run, he also got an inspired ride over 1600m first up. I just think BS just looks in better form and is a much more attractive price based on his 2 runs this season as an ew bet.
You could be right HK, wasn't a great run last time. Hopefully the Magic Man might conjure up some old magic. Staphanos was always going to be my bet but his price like the other Japanese runners has offered no value over the last couple of weeks.
I'd be happier withTomny Berry riding DOR, think he gets on better with him. May be bring over critical but I think some of JM's worst rides have been on DOR.
He's usually the tail end charlie which doesn't help matters. He did get a good ride in that Mile win but he stayed on strongly... the positive he won over a trip which isn't his optimum which makes me think he's still got some sparkle. He did it the hard way in that race as well, which made me think they wanted to go easy on him in his next race... just trying to think like a trainer!
Mr D - I'm backing Peniaphobia ew too at 18-1, that's far too big.
Yep, big price for last year's winner HK. The one thing I'm worried about him is he will be fighting it out on the front early. Pace high and low, looks like it will be set up for a closer... but you never know!
It was set up for a closer last year.....he's in 1 this year. He ran a decent trial giving the others 5lb so at the price i thought it was a value bet.
The sprint is far too hard a race to have that much confidence so I'm doing 2 at decent prices as you can make a case for most of the runners. I think there may be a lot of hard luck stories and it may be better to be on the front and out of trouble.
The sprint is far too hard a race to have that much confidence so I'm doing 2 at decent prices as you can make a case for most of the runners. I think there may be a lot of hard luck stories and it may be better to be on the front and out of trouble.
Form guide
http://racing.hkjc.com/racing/content/PDF/RaceCard/20161211_starter_all.pdf
http://racing.hkjc.com/racing/content/PDF/RaceCard/20161211_starter_all.pdf
I've reassessed the HK mile form, I think the Japanese horses have better form than the current HK crop (ex AF if he returns to his best). I'm not touching a HK horse in the mile apart from a sentimental bet on AF. I think a fit AF would destroy the current HK milers and a fit AF got beaten by Maurice last year, the 2 Japanese horse have to be on a par with Maurice so I'll back both of them in the race tomorrow.
Sorry - will back 2 out of the 3, can'r decide which one to leave out!!
I'm not knocking Peniaphobia HK, I can understand why you have backed him at that price. On paper last years race looked like it was going to be quick with the two Yanks running but it never happened that way and the Magic Man gave Peniaphobia and inspired ride (he really only had one option) from a wide draw. He set steady fractions on the front and made all pretty easy. You also had to be near the pace last year the way the track was riding (it might be the same this year)! I'm pretty confident this years renewal will be run quicker, Signs Of Blessing only races one way and he will go forward from out wide, Peniaphobia will surely go forward as well from Barrier 1 and he will drag some of the other HK runners with him. I get the feeling it will be run like the Chairman's Sprint Prize race... but you never know with some of these jockeys!!!
Logotype was on my shortlist for the Mile but his price (UK) has been too short for me, he's not the most consistent of runners but his got a good draw and he might get an easy lead from Barrier 2. The track work of other two Japanese runners has looked good this week... Satono Aladdin was a tad unlucky last time. The Mile is wide open, it's probably best to back a couple. John Moore seems very bullish about Helene Paragon... the complete opposite with Able Friend, he's very worried with his fitness and draw!
It looks like I will have to dip my toe in the HK pool with my Staphanos bet but his price is steadily trickling down, he's now 22 Win, 4.9 Place. Hopefully he will stay a double figure price!
Logotype was on my shortlist for the Mile but his price (UK) has been too short for me, he's not the most consistent of runners but his got a good draw and he might get an easy lead from Barrier 2. The track work of other two Japanese runners has looked good this week... Satono Aladdin was a tad unlucky last time. The Mile is wide open, it's probably best to back a couple. John Moore seems very bullish about Helene Paragon... the complete opposite with Able Friend, he's very worried with his fitness and draw!
It looks like I will have to dip my toe in the HK pool with my Staphanos bet but his price is steadily trickling down, he's now 22 Win, 4.9 Place. Hopefully he will stay a double figure price!
Vase - One Foot In Heaven @ 201
Sprint - Not Listenintome @ 12/1
Mile - Giant Treasure @ 25/1
Classic - Blazing Speed @ 20/1
0.5pt e/w Lucky 15
Mile - Helene Paragon @ 9/1 - 2pt e/w
Sprint - Not Listenintome @ 12/1
Mile - Giant Treasure @ 25/1
Classic - Blazing Speed @ 20/1
0.5pt e/w Lucky 15
Mile - Helene Paragon @ 9/1 - 2pt e/w
Good Luck all......I'm sure that once I've had some adult beverages my mind will change again!!
Cup - Highland Reel win and Silverwave wp
Sprint - Notlistnen and Peniaphobia - both wp
Mile - Logotype and Contentment - both wp
Cup - Not sure on the win (wp Blazing Speed and Staphanos)
Supporting card is top class today too
Cup - Highland Reel win and Silverwave wp
Sprint - Notlistnen and Peniaphobia - both wp
Mile - Logotype and Contentment - both wp
Cup - Not sure on the win (wp Blazing Speed and Staphanos)
Supporting card is top class today too
Finally... added Staphanos 12-1 EW (B365), that will do for me.
Good luck all.
Good luck all.
With One Foot In Heaven having one foot in hell this week after travelling poor and iffy blood I'm going to add Silverwave 14-1 EW (B365).
Well, that was a mixed bag. Picked up some nice EW money in three of the four races but no winner. Cracking racing from Sha Tin and Maurice is a champ, that was his best race... very impressive.
Very impressive indeed......I had a very good day, punting and drinking! I will now be accused of aftertimig......I had the winners of races 1,3,6,8 & 9!!
Utter filth HK... well done!
Satono Crown winning was a bit sickening, I couldn't forgive his last few runs but stepping him back up in trip did the trick!
Satono Crown winning was a bit sickening, I couldn't forgive his last few runs but stepping him back up in trip did the trick!
MrD - last race MR today, one hurdles run then fences, he's improved and will be a lot better over the bigger obstacles when he gets there, hopefully he'll run a decent race today.
Aahhhh... missed your post yesterday HK. Bloody typical, he goes and wins when I don't back him.
Lovely Christmas present for you and a great run after a very long layoff... hopefully some more fun to be had with him when he does go over the bigger obstacles.
Lovely Christmas present for you and a great run after a very long layoff... hopefully some more fun to be had with him when he does go over the bigger obstacles.
He was nowhere near fully fit, has come out of it well - not too sure what comes next as he won that well (beat horses that had won multiple races - even if they weren't in form). We do think he'll be very good over fences and still has some growing and strengthening to do.
Mr D - 2 things
1. Huntingdon Friday if on, ground may not be ideal but improved on last run so expecting him to go close.
Monday Sha Tin - near enough re-runs of the intl sprint and mile. Bubbles looks to have the sprint at his mercy and AF looked great in a recent trial so may go closer now he's fitter.
1. Huntingdon Friday if on, ground may not be ideal but improved on last run so expecting him to go close.
Monday Sha Tin - near enough re-runs of the intl sprint and mile. Bubbles looks to have the sprint at his mercy and AF looked great in a recent trial so may go closer now he's fitter.
Good jockey booking HK... I know what will happen if I back him today!!!
If racing is on at Huntingdon I will chuck him in an accumulator with Bubbles and AF. Connections seem more confident with AF this time. Tricky races Monday.
If racing is on at Huntingdon I will chuck him in an accumulator with Bubbles and AF. Connections seem more confident with AF this time. Tricky races Monday.
Running today Mr D, confident but there is an obvious worry about the ground
Cheers - we think he's quite a good prospect, especially when he goes over fences
Bloody hell, missed your post again HK! Watched the race this morning and he won as he liked, lovely performance... looked fine on the softer ground as well.
Watched the race this morning and he won as he liked, lovely performance... looked fine on the softer ground as well.
Today Mr D....confident despite 7lb ex, but the short space between runs could give concern.
MrD - Market Rasen today, very good ew chance, if he's improved as we expected then he should go close, the ground was completely against him last run
Howdy HK, cheers for the info. I'm pretty sure this will be a first for me... backing a horse running at Market Rasen! Hopefully KR will run like he did last time at the Market Rasen.
Another solid run HK and some EW money in the pocket... shame he made a mistake at the last hurdle.
Another decent run, pace was against him completely as it was slowly run. Not sure he would have won but would have been a lot closer as the mistake took away all momentum. He jumped very well apart from that and is certainly going to be a very good prospect next season over fences.
Mr D - I can't believe Werther is 4-1 with B365 for the QEII cup, that's an amazing price, I think he'll be fav on the day
I think the price of Neorealism is very short but Vivlos did win impressively in Dubai and boosted the form of the Nakayama Kinen. Chuck in the fact he's trained by Noriyuki Hori (Maurice's trainer) and the Magic Man picks up the ride, I can completely understand why people have been backing him.
If there is any of the wet stuff around Werther will be pretty much unbeatable IMO, so 4-1 could be a big price... I hope it rains!!!
If there is any of the wet stuff around Werther will be pretty much unbeatable IMO, so 4-1 could be a big price... I hope it rains!!!
Rain forecast for the beginning of next week.
I can't have Pakistan Star at the same price as Werther either, I think he's got 2l at least to find. I don't think Werther needs it wet either, he's won well on good and ran well on GF last run over 1600m where he was a little unlucky behind Rapper Dragon.
The week after is the mile G1 and I think BO will turn it around with RD. There's also an interesting G1 sprint on the same day with the new kid, Mr Stunning, taking on a G1 field. Aerovelocity looks way overpriced at the moment for that at 7-1.
I can't have Pakistan Star at the same price as Werther either, I think he's got 2l at least to find. I don't think Werther needs it wet either, he's won well on good and ran well on GF last run over 1600m where he was a little unlucky behind Rapper Dragon.
The week after is the mile G1 and I think BO will turn it around with RD. There's also an interesting G1 sprint on the same day with the new kid, Mr Stunning, taking on a G1 field. Aerovelocity looks way overpriced at the moment for that at 7-1.
Like a few others I've been having problems posting on here, two went down the gurgler!!! Google Chrome and Android problem by the look of it... Microsoft Edge no problems.
Totally agree regarding Pakistan Star HK, he shouldn't be the same price as Werther. I don't think Werther is ground dependent but IMO he will have a bigger advantage if it does rain. For me his winning performance in last years QEII Cup was his most impressive and that was on yielding ground... I'm not sure the others will appreciate it like him.
It will more than likely be lovely, warm and sunny weather, if it is I might take a chance on a horse I backed a couple of times last year. Dicton at 20-1 EW is the one I'm leaning towards, he was given some iffy rides by Peslier IMO and I've always thought 10f could be his best trip (they keep running him over 8f). He ran an OK prep at Chantilly and that should have put him spot on for this. I'm going to hold out for a bigger price before I have a dabble.
Totally agree regarding Pakistan Star HK, he shouldn't be the same price as Werther. I don't think Werther is ground dependent but IMO he will have a bigger advantage if it does rain. For me his winning performance in last years QEII Cup was his most impressive and that was on yielding ground... I'm not sure the others will appreciate it like him.
It will more than likely be lovely, warm and sunny weather, if it is I might take a chance on a horse I backed a couple of times last year. Dicton at 20-1 EW is the one I'm leaning towards, he was given some iffy rides by Peslier IMO and I've always thought 10f could be his best trip (they keep running him over 8f). He ran an OK prep at Chantilly and that should have put him spot on for this. I'm going to hold out for a bigger price before I have a dabble.
I think you'll be spot on with the weather, it may mean good ground rather than GF. The courses in HK do drain well.
One to watch or look at for the future is a horse John Size has, he's only a 3yo but looks a very exciting prospect, Nothingilikemore. He runs again this Sunday in a C2 over 1400m. Hopefully he'll go to the top in HK like Mr Stunning appears to be doing,
One to watch or look at for the future is a horse John Size has, he's only a 3yo but looks a very exciting prospect, Nothingilikemore. He runs again this Sunday in a C2 over 1400m. Hopefully he'll go to the top in HK like Mr Stunning appears to be doing,
Nothingilikemore won impressively again HK, you were spot on and looks a very promising 3yr old.
After reading the first report (HKJC website) on Dicton this morning I decided to take the current price and back him at 20-1 EW. Looks in fantastic shape (photo/video footage from Sha Tin) and shipped with no problems which is what I wanted to hear. The top two (Neorealism and Werther) in the betting will be tough nuts to crack and I cannot split them... so I've gone with some EW value instead, hopefully he will run as good as he looks.
http://campaign.hkjc.com/en/qe-ii-cup/news.aspx?in_file=2017042401348.html&b_cid=EWHPJSE_1617APQE_NEWS
There doesn't appear to be much pace in this race which will be against Pakistan Star IMO and his current price does look way to short.
After reading the first report (HKJC website) on Dicton this morning I decided to take the current price and back him at 20-1 EW. Looks in fantastic shape (photo/video footage from Sha Tin) and shipped with no problems which is what I wanted to hear. The top two (Neorealism and Werther) in the betting will be tough nuts to crack and I cannot split them... so I've gone with some EW value instead, hopefully he will run as good as he looks.
http://campaign.hkjc.com/en/qe-ii-cup/news.aspx?in_file=2017042401348.html&b_cid=EWHPJSE_1617APQE_NEWS
There doesn't appear to be much pace in this race which will be against Pakistan Star IMO and his current price does look way to short.
I'm not convinced the lack of pace will suit Werther too, Neorealism will have it all his own way out on the lead but I don't think Moreira will want it too quick to set it up for anyone. I'm leaning towards a small ew on an old fav of mine who will sit just off the pace - Blazing Speed. I know he's a bit hit and miss (even more so these days) but he has shown some glimpses this season and is worth one more go for me. I'll also have a win bet on Werther.
Yep, this is going to be very tactical with only 8 runners but out of all of them Neorealism is the one who will more than likely dictate matters. He lead from start to finish when he beat Maurice at Sapporo (1m 2f) and he does like to go forward in his races over 8f. He didn't settle that well in his last race when Demuro tried to hold him back a bit but he still won.
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