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Cheltenham Media release.

PADDY POWER OPEN BETTING ON HIGHLIGHT OF THE OPEN
Trainer Keiran Burke is hoping that stable star Hunt Ball can continue his incredible
rise in the £150,000 Paddy Power Gold Cup, the feature race of Cheltenham’s Open
meeting on Saturday, November 17.
Race sponsors Paddy Power have opened their book on the extended two and a halfmile handicap chase and installed Hunt Ball as their 8/1 joint-favourite alongside Grade
One Racing Post Arkle Chase runner-up Cue Card.
Hunt Ball proved himself to be one of the stories of last season with seven wins that
culminated with a stunning eight-length victory at The Festival in the Listed Pulteney
Land Investments Novices' Handicap Chase, run over the same course and distance
as the Paddy Power Gold Cup.
The seven-year-old started his novice campaign racing off a mark of 69 and ended the
season with a fine third in the Grade One Betfred Bowl at Aintree in April - a
performance that elevated his official rating to 157.
Burke revealed today: “I am very happy with Hunt Ball. He has come back from the
summer bigger and stronger and he looks better than ever.
“I hope there is plenty more to come from him. He has obviously got to improve a fair
bit to compete with the big boys, but in his last run at Aintree he was still showing
improvement even after the long hard season he had.
“He ran a cracker at Aintree and I think if that had been his fourth or fifth race of the
year, he would have probably gone and won as he came there very strongly but was
just feeling the effects of a long season towards the end of the race.“I’m pretty sure there is more improvement to come and he will start this season in the
Paddy Power Gold Cup at Cheltenham. I think he probably wants to go further than
that, but the Paddy Power Gold Cup will suit him and then after that we will look at all
the big races.
“He will go for the King George at Kempton and then the owner has got a lot of money
on him for the Gold Cup, so he will probably go there or the Ryanair, but I’m not sure
what he will do in between.
“I think he can win the Paddy Power Gold Cup off his mark, but he is not the easiest
horse to get fit as he is big horse. He will take a fair bit of work and we will give him a
few racecourse gallops beforehand and try and get him as fit as we can.”
Champion Court (10/1) also boasts some excellent form at Cheltenham, having
captured a Grade Two novices’ chase on New Year’s Day and finished second in the
Grade Two Jewson Novices’ Chase at The Festival, but the seven-year-old may miss
the race to concentrate on a King George challenge.
His trainer Martin Keighley reported: “Champion Court has done really well over the
summer and we are slowly stepping his work up now. I think he has improved over the
summer and he had the longest break of any horse in the yard because he wasn’t right
when he ran at Aintree.
“I think he had gone over the top a bit and when he got back we did some tests and he
wasn’t quite right, so he did amazingly well to finish second.
“Prior to that, his run at the Festival in the Jewson was brilliant when he bumped into
a superstar (Sir Des Champs) who is now favourite for the Gold Cup.
“There is a graduation chase at Kempton on November 5 and I think Champion Court
will go there for his first run.
“It would be a big ask for him in the Paddy Power Gold Cup, so I think he will go to
Kempton and then one more race in between before a crack at the King George. I think
the three miles at Kempton will suit him and he tends to jump a little bit right so you’d
think going round there will suit him better.
“He is probably a notch off top-class but he is entitled to improve and take on the best
this season. His best form is over two miles, five furlongs so he will probably go for the
Ryanair after the King George. However, if he stays really well you never know, he
could be a Gold Cup horse.”
Invictus (10/1) also enjoyed a productive first season over fences that culminated with
victory in the Grade Two Reynoldstown Novices’ Chase at Ascot.
Betfred Cheltenham Cup runner-up The Giant Bolster (12/1) may bid to avenge his
early departure in the Paddy Power Gold Cup last year, while Grade Two scorer
Silviniaco Conti, last year’s fourth Aerial and Grade One Manifesto Novices’ Chase
victor Menorah are also quoted at 12/1. Entries for the Paddy Power Gold Cup close on Tuesday, October 30, and are
announced the next day. The weights are revealed on Wednesday, November 7.
The Open meeting runs from Friday, November 16, to Sunday, November 18. Tickets
are available online at www.cheltenham.co.uk or via the box office on 0844 579 3003.
Paddy Power Gold Cup - Paddy Power bet:
8/1 Hunt Ball, Cue Card, 10/1 Champion Court, Invictus 12/1 The Giant Bolster, Aerial,
Silviniaco Conti, Menorah, 14/1 For Non Stop, Cristal Bonus, Michel Le Bon, 16/1
Poquelin, 20/1 Quantitativeeasing, Divers, Micheal Flips, Solix, Zaynar, 25/1 Dave’s
Dream, Loosen My Load, 33/1 Finger On the Pulse
Each way 1/4 odds, 1,2,3 & 4

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By:
asasas4
When: 18 Sep 12 13:32
anyone know if cue card is a likely runner?
By:
harchibald
When: 18 Sep 12 19:41
I'll say this only once, UNIONISTE is Paul's best hope here and he isn't even in the market. No price on him so far ... bide your time kids.

The 'market' looks about right as a bookies setup job IMVHO. Not a horse rated under 150 and around half won't even be running come the day. Hold those horses guys and girls.
By:
roobuck
When: 18 Sep 12 19:55
Indeed. Invictus 10/1? Out for the season, classic grab by our bookie friends
By:
grinch
When: 18 Sep 12 22:08
any idea whether Grand Crus would be going for this. Would travel well in this field and his chase handicap mark is feasible enough.
By:
strontium
When: 18 Sep 12 22:41
I agree - probable favourite if he's an entry/runner.
By:
sintonian
When: 19 Sep 12 12:20
PFN is something like 0/30 in this race with many favourites beaten.

Some people like Al Ferof for this but if he runs is likely to be another favourite.
By:
stevo1
When: 19 Sep 12 13:09
I would say at least 5 in top half of market are certain non starters, Invictus out for season? PP having laugh in betting at 10s.
By:
booster
When: 19 Sep 12 17:23
Must be loads of unexposed sorts early 140s not in the betting.
By:
harchibald
When: 19 Sep 12 18:14
Roger Stanley I think wanted to run him (Grand Crus) in this last year - he had already schooled very very well over fences but they chose not to, more likely than not because Great Endeavour revolved around winning this race for DJ again. (as tipped up here well in advance by yours truly.)

Genuinely wouldn't surprise me if Grand Crus ran in this prior to the KG. Would also think SALUT FLO will be aimed at this.
By:
harchibald
When: 19 Sep 12 18:14
Roger Stanley I think wanted to run him (Grand Crus) in this last year - he had already schooled very very well over fences but they chose not to, more likely than not because Great Endeavour revolved around winning this race for DJ again. (as tipped up here well in advance by yours truly.)

Genuinely wouldn't surprise me if Grand Crus ran in this prior to the KG. Would also think SALUT FLO will be aimed at this.
By:
harchibald
When: 19 Sep 12 18:15
Roger Stanley I think wanted to run him (Grand Crus) in this last year - he had already schooled very very well over fences but they chose not to, more likely than not because Great Endeavour revolved around winning this race for DJ again. (as tipped up here well in advance by yours truly.)

Genuinely wouldn't surprise me if Grand Crus ran in this prior to the KG. Would also think SALUT FLO will be aimed at this.
By:
harchibald
When: 19 Sep 12 18:15
Roger Stanley I think wanted to run him (Grand Crus) in this last year - he had already schooled very very well over fences but they chose not to, more likely than not because Great Endeavour revolved around winning this race for DJ again. (as tipped up here well in advance by yours truly.)

Genuinely wouldn't surprise me if Grand Crus ran in this prior to the KG. Would also think SALUT FLO will be aimed at this.
By:
harchibald
When: 19 Sep 12 18:15
Roger Stanley I think wanted to run him (Grand Crus) in this last year - he had already schooled very very well over fences but they chose not to, more likely than not because Great Endeavour revolved around winning this race for DJ again. (as tipped up here well in advance by yours truly.)

Genuinely wouldn't surprise me if Grand Crus ran in this prior to the KG. Would also think SALUT FLO will be aimed at this.
By:
harchibald
When: 19 Sep 12 18:15
Roger Stanley I think wanted to run him (Grand Crus) in this last year - he had already schooled very very well over fences but they chose not to, more likely than not because Great Endeavour revolved around winning this race for DJ again. (as tipped up here well in advance by yours truly.)

Genuinely wouldn't surprise me if Grand Crus ran in this prior to the KG. Would also think SALUT FLO will be aimed at this.
By:
harchibald
When: 19 Sep 12 18:15
Sorry posted too many times problem on mouse
By:
stormey1
When: 19 Sep 12 19:12
I wouldnt be surprised at all if Grands Crus runs in this off 157.
Salut Flo defo wont be running tho as is out for possibly the season and at least till spring
By:
harchibald
When: 19 Sep 12 20:57
Er re Salut Flo yeah I think you're right sorry enthusiasm driving my train of thought ...
By:
harchibald
When: 19 Sep 12 20:57
Er re Salut Flo yeah I think you're right sorry enthusiasm driving my train of thought ...
By:
harchibald
When: 19 Sep 12 20:57
Er re Salut Flo yeah I think you're right sorry enthusiasm driving my train of thought ...
By:
harchibald
When: 19 Sep 12 20:57
Er re Salut Flo yeah I think you're right sorry enthusiasm driving my train of thought ...
By:
harchibald
When: 19 Sep 12 20:57
Er re Salut Flo yeah I think you're right sorry enthusiasm driving my train of thought ...
By:
harchibald
When: 19 Sep 12 20:57
Er re Salut Flo yeah I think you're right sorry enthusiasm driving my train of thought ...
By:
harchibald
When: 19 Sep 12 20:57
Er re Salut Flo yeah I think you're right sorry enthusiasm driving my train of thought ...
By:
sintonian
When: 19 Sep 12 21:26
Harchibald, either give your mouse a clean or take some sedatives. Cool
By:
Howdi
When: 19 Sep 12 23:23
fecking hell harchbald i only clicked on this thread as there 23 new posts but 21 of them are yours Laugh
By:
grinch
When: 20 Sep 12 19:02
grand crus wouldnt have had a mark in last years race ??? or would they have run off his hurdle rating
By:
Meat Loaf
When: 25 Sep 12 18:42
Little John could be on a nice mark. Goes well fresh and Twiston-Davies always respected in this race.
By:
Meat Loaf
When: 25 Sep 12 18:47
*Little Josh
By:
corporal
When: 25 Sep 12 19:49
Agree on respect for NTD in this race. Others that might be on a decent mark which he could aim at the race are The Cockney Mackem, and Billie Magern.
By:
IC superstar
When: 25 Sep 12 21:07
Stormey, what is the news on why Salut Flo is out for the season? Thanks
By:
BJG
When: 25 Sep 12 21:21
Cheltenham Festival winner Salut Flo is likely to make a belated return over jumps as he recovers from colic.

The David Pipe-trained seven-year-old claimed the Byrne Group Plate in March, but suffered a leg injury in his preparations for a race at Punchestown a month later.

Plans are now on hold after he required surgery following a bout of colic.

Pipe said: "He is well on the road to recovery now, but he has been through a lot and plans for when he will return to the track are on hold at present.

"Owner Allan Stennett had shown tremendous patience with him prior to his Festival success and hopefully his patience will once again be rewarded.

"He is far too good a horse to risk bringing back too quickly and we will continue to monitor his progress before making any firm plans for him."
By:
IC superstar
When: 26 Sep 12 05:25
thanks. looks like he has been added to my growing list of horses I was really keen on, that now have long term injuries
By:
harchibald
When: 02 Oct 12 19:11
GRAND CRUS NAP
By:
boy wonder 07
When: 03 Oct 12 10:19
would think grands crus would be at top of hcp that would be big ask anyone got a list of entries
By:
strontium
When: 03 Oct 12 10:32
I don't think entires are out yet.

There must be a good chance Poquelin will be top weight off 166. If Grands Crus is a King George winner in waiting, as his connections clearly think, he must be well in off 157.
By:
boy wonder 07
When: 03 Oct 12 10:42
sorry to disagree strontium as i respect yours and harchibalds knowledge and views but i cant have him winning a paddy power
By:
strontium
When: 03 Oct 12 10:55
No worries Grin I think it's close to the perfect race for him, but if this were easy it would be no fun. There could very easily be something better handicapped in the field.
By:
roobuck
When: 03 Oct 12 11:05
Other than the price so far out, its hard to see a negative about the race in terms of distance and his current mark.
By:
boy wonder 07
When: 03 Oct 12 11:06
yes there is usually one or two who slip under the radar looking forward to the entries then  i can get to work
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