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when do the weights come out?
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By:
PeteTheBloke
When: 23 Oct 11 14:30
And when will BF put up a market for it?
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 26 Oct 11 12:42
THE 46 ENTRIES for you.....

Air Force One (GER)    Charlie Mann    9
Aiteen Thirtythree (IRE)    Paul Nicholls    7
Alderluck (IRE)    Nick Gifford    8
Balthazar King (IRE)    Philip Hobbs    7
Beshabar (IRE)    Tim Vaughan    9
Billie Magern    Nigel Twiston-Davies    7
Blazing Bailey    Alan King    9
Blazing Tempo (IRE)    W. P. Mullins, Ireland    7
Calgary Bay (IRE)    Henrietta Knight    8
Carruthers    Mark Bradstock    8
Chariot Charger (IRE)    Emma Lavelle    7
Chicago Grey (IRE)    Gordon Elliott, Ireland    8
Cooldine (IRE)    W. P. Mullins, Ireland    9
Diamond Harry    Nick Williams    8
Dover's Hill    Mary Hambro    9
Fair Along (GER)    Philip Hobbs    9
General Kutuzov (IRE)    Nick Gifford    7
Gone To Lunch (IRE)    Jeremy Scott    11
Great Endeavour (IRE)    David Pipe    7
Hey Big Spender (IRE)    Colin Tizzard    8
Joncol (IRE)    Paul Nolan, Ireland    8
King Fontaine (IRE)    Malcolm Jefferson    8
Madison du Berlais (FR)    David Pipe    10
Michel Le Bon (FR)    Paul Nicholls    8
Mon Parrain (FR)    Paul Nicholls    5
Muirhead (IRE)    Noel Meade, Ireland    8
Neptune Collonges (FR)    Paul Nicholls    10
Neptune Equester    Brian Ellison    8
Ouzbeck (FR)    Emma Lavelle    9
Planet of Sound    Philip Hobbs    9
Qhilimar (FR)    Charlie Longsdon    7
Quinz (FR)    Philip Hobbs    7
Razor Royale (IRE)    Nigel Twiston-Davies    9
Sarando    Paul Webber    6
Shakalakaboomboom (IRE)    Nicky Henderson    7
The Giant Bolster    David Bridgwater    6
Time For Rupert (IRE)    Paul Webber    7
Tullamore Dew (IRE)    Nick Gifford    9
Uncle Junior (IRE)    W. P. Mullins, Ireland    10
Vino Griego (FR)    Gary Moore    6
Wayward Prince    Ian Williams    7
Weird Al (IRE)    Donald McCain    8
West End Rocker (IRE)    Alan King    9
What A Friend    Paul Nicholls    8
Wishfull Thinking    Philip Hobbs    8
Wymott (IRE)    Donald McCain    7
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 26 Oct 11 12:44
The 6 IRISH entries.....


Blazing Tempo (IRE)    W. P. Mullins, Ireland    7
Chicago Grey (IRE)    Gordon Elliott, Ireland    8
Cooldine (IRE)    W. P. Mullins, Ireland    9
Joncol (IRE)    Paul Nolan, Ireland    8
Muirhead (IRE)    Noel Meade, Ireland    8
Uncle Junior (IRE)    W. P. Mullins, Ireland    10
By:
ChildOfMine2
When: 26 Oct 11 12:48
I suppose Cooldine would be interesting on his best form. He'd have a chance off around 11st.
By:
penzance
When: 26 Oct 11 12:54
cheers,CMi
By:
PeteTheBloke
When: 26 Oct 11 13:22
Anyone know why BF won't put up a market? They've been asked enough times.
By:
PeteTheBloke
When: 26 Oct 11 19:47
For all those who haven't noticed - BF HAVE PUT UP A MARKET!
By:
boy wonder 07
When: 27 Oct 11 08:11
wow this stands out like diamond harry did last year come on layers price up
By:
JOCI Club
When: 30 Oct 11 18:48
Has Nicholls mentioned anything about Michel Le Bon for this race, as he'd be one I could be interested in?
By:
PFtrader
When: 30 Oct 11 19:28
I don't understand the reluctance to commit Beshabar to this race by the Vaughan team, he is absolutely tailor made for the challenge.

I understand they are keen on the National longer term for the horse however he has all the attributes needed for this race. A big galloping type in the mould of Denman, he really looked the part over fences in his last couple of runs, particularly at Ayr where he jumped like a buck. Newbury looks an ideal track for him and off a mark of 150, he is going to have a cracking weight around 10st 7lb provided one of the top weights stay in which looks likely (suspect Nicholls will keep one of the top two in to keep the weight down for Aiteenthirtythree).

With doubts surrounding Weird Al and Time for Rupert, as reported in the RP tonight, Beshabar would be value at 14's antepost if there was a firm committment to run.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 03 Nov 11 17:07
JONCOL into 14's (from 16's) after Thurles today.
By:
dtamutants
When: 08 Nov 11 00:35
Yeah JOCI Nicholls said in the RP stable tour today that both 1833 and Michel le Bon are both intended runners.
By:
Brooksielad
When: 09 Nov 11 14:39
Interesting Air Force One, didn't realise he was only rated 128 these days, entered to run in a handicap this weekend, i prosume he'd have to go up 12lbs or so to get a run so he would be fit and worth betting at the weekend. If back to his best a mark of 140 could be quite interesting. Just not a massive fan of the trainer.
By:
unclepuncle
When: 09 Nov 11 15:07
FORM        HORSE               AGE     WGT      TRAINER
1     524P-3     What A Friend28     8     11-12     Paul Nicholls        
2     B0186-     Neptune Collonges224     10     11-11     Paul Nicholls        
3     11P/1-     Diamond Harry364     8     11-9     Nick Williams        
4     18P-1     Weird Al28             8     11-7     Donald McCain        
5     2121-1     Wishfull Thinking204     8     11-7     Philip Hobbs        
6     433-1     Joncol23             8     11-5     Paul Nolan        
7     115-2     Time For Rupert28     7     11-2     Paul Webber        
8     01/35-     Planet Of Sound315     9     11-1     Philip Hobbs        
9     3/5P-2     Cooldine23             9     10-10     W P Mullins        
10     131P-P     Quinz28             7     10-10     Philip Hobbs        
11     12F2-1     Sarando19 4x             6     10-10     Paul Webber        
12     111P-2     Aiteen Thirtythree26     7     10-9     Paul Nicholls        
13     5312-     Mon Parrain232        5     10-9     Paul Nicholls        
14     6119P-     Blazing Bailey224     9     10-8     Alan King        
15     8149P-     Hey Big Spender231     8     10-8     Colin Tizzard        
16     5-2143     Blazing Tempo21     7     10-8     W P Mullins        
17     B121-     Beshabar224             9     10-7     Tim Vaughan        
18     518-U3     Chicago Grey28       8     10-7     Gordon Elliott        
19     11134-     Wayward Prince232     7     10-7     Ian Williams        
20     62F6-     Great Endeavour231     7     10-4     David Pipe        
21     6649-     Carruthers253             8     10-3     Mark Bradstock        
22     631418     Muirhead28             8     10-3     Noel Meade        
23     31311/     Michel Le Bon730     8     10-3     Paul Nicholls        
24     F1UF-4     The Giant Bolster35     6     10-3     David Bridgwater        
25     6242F-     Calgary Bay231       8     10-3     Henrietta Knight        
26     111P-     Wymott255             7     10-1     Donald McCain        
27     0P6U-2     Razor Royale28      9     10-0     Nigel Twiston-Davies        
28     1-1473     Uncle Junior48      10     9-13     W P Mullins        
29     934-U2     Fair Along28             9     9-13     Philip Hobbs        
30     11P-15     Balthazar King28     7     9-12     Philip Hobbs        
31     11PB-     West End Rocker231     9     9-11     Alan King        
32     980-54     Ouzbeck49             9     9-11     Emma Lavelle        
33     2123-5     Tullamore Dew35     9     9-11     Nick Gifford        
34     1797-1     Shakalakaboomboom203     7     9-11     Nicky Henderson        
35     F65P-6     Madison Du Berlais21     10     9-11     David Pipe        
36     5028-1     Billie Magern42     7     9-10     Nigel Twiston-Davies        
37     P1R-12     Qhilimar27             7     9-8     Charlie Longsdon        
38     1P50-P     King Fontaine21     8     9-6     Malcolm Jefferson        
39     63234-     Vino Griego256             6     9-4     Gary Moore        
40     7-4P19     Gone To Lunch21     11     9-1     Jeremy Scott        
41     F2238/     Chariot Charger609     7     9-1     Emma Lavelle        
42     54U12-     General Kutuzov267     7     9-0     Nick Gifford        
43     4230-3     Neptune Equester63     8     9-0     Brian Ellison        
44     5213-7     Alderluck21             8     8-13     Nick Gifford        
45     3UFP/P     Air Force One28     9     8-13     Charlie Mann        
46     411-U8     Dover´s Hill21        9         Mary Hambro
By:
unclepuncle
When: 09 Nov 11 15:08
Wymott for me @ 16/1
By:
dtamutants
When: 09 Nov 11 15:57
Wayward Prince for me. It looks like the weights will go up 1lb, because I don't think WAF will run, but Neptune will I think. Quinz could also be interesting if he takes his chance.
By:
JOCI Club
When: 09 Nov 11 16:26
dtamutants 08 Nov 11 01:35 
Yeah JOCI Nicholls said in the RP stable tour today that both 1833 and Michel le Bon are both intended runners.


Thanks - interesting news.
By:
JOCI Club
When: 09 Nov 11 16:30
Quinz ran like a dog last time out - may have been spooked by his National run. Didn't go at all. Would need evidence that he's still in love with the game.
By:
JOCI Club
When: 09 Nov 11 16:31
Would like to know if Beshabar an intended runner. Could have a chance.
By:
ReimerpYsatnaf
When: 09 Nov 11 16:38
Already on Joncol @ 20s but going to have a few €€€ om Wymott @ 14s carrying only 10-1
By:
zilzal1
When: 09 Nov 11 16:41
Total shot in the dark but i though that Madison Du Berlais ran a better race on his comeback, showed a glimpse of his old self and is now at a dangerous mark, he can be better second and third times out
By:
Rod Tidwell
When: 09 Nov 11 16:50
I must have been watching a different horse to you zilzal. Expected much better from him tbh
By:
zilzal1
When: 09 Nov 11 17:00
He's never set the world alight 1st time out Rod!!, just thought he ran on again after looking he might finish tailed off
By:
Rod Tidwell
When: 09 Nov 11 17:08
He gave me one of my biggest wins when he won the Hennessy (and I know he finished 8th in his prep run for that) but off the mark he had on Saturday I thought he was beaten too soon for me. I read that Pipe thought he could get him back to the top level this season but I'm struggling to see it right now - hope I'm wrong because the horse owes me nothing and would love to see him come back and win something decent
By:
zilzal1
When: 09 Nov 11 17:16
I read somewhere that He's a "Greedy Eater" though and takes a bit of time to get ready, im probably going to give him a couple of chances off this type of mark(hes down another 2lb) as he might pop up at 33-1 plus and it wont cost the earth to find out

He might have gone, but hes still 10 so ill give him a shot
By:
tomdeane
When: 09 Nov 11 20:40
^ I agree with you zilzal. Have been keeping a quiet eye on him for a while now as Pipe, more than most, can get a big win from his horses when they have dropped to a fair mark after being rated too high.

I suspect MDB is not the horse he was (nowhere near) but I also have a feeling he retains enough ability to win one more good prize when conditions are right. Whether he can win the Hennessy is another question (probably too hit for him now) but at huge prices you are right, he's a cheap back.
By:
PeteTheBloke
When: 10 Nov 11 09:25
Anyone know what the Pricewise horse is in today's RP?
By:
PeteTheBloke
When: 10 Nov 11 09:26
Forget it. Just looked at the betting on here - must be Michel le Bon
By:
dtamutants
When: 10 Nov 11 11:15
He had two tips, I guess the other one was Planet of Sound, been backed today.
By:
PeteTheBloke
When: 10 Nov 11 11:23
Thanks DT
By:
PeteTheBloke
When: 12 Nov 11 11:04
Anyone know the safety limit for the field size? Thanks.
By:
bazzar
When: 12 Nov 11 14:09
Petethebloke, safety limit is 24.
By:
PeteTheBloke
When: 12 Nov 11 16:10
Thanks Baz. Did you just know this? I looked all over the place trying to find the info.
By:
bazzar
When: 13 Nov 11 07:16
I always cut out the big races, especially the handicaps, from the Racing Post, some I keep NOW such as the GRAND NATIONAL to compare weights from year to year.
As I have previously posted I think I am the only person in my town who ACTUALLY reads the conditions for races.
I once found a race whereby the trainer could win the race and not pick up a penalty for a big handicap, because it was ONE pound under the stipulated value of race to be penalized.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 14 Nov 11 22:12
1     524P-3      What A Friend28 8    11-12    Paul Nicholls     169     151    174
2     B0186-      Neptune Collonges224 10    11-11    Paul Nicholls     168     141    172
3     11P/1-      Diamond Harry364 8    11-9    Nick Williams    166     173    176
4     18P-1       Weird Al28 8    11-7    Donald McCain     164     139    175
5     121-16      Wishfull Thinking14 8    11-7    Philip Hobbs     164     156    174
6     433-1       Joncol23 8    11-5    Paul Nolan     162     151    171
7     115-2       Time For Rupert28 7    11-2    Paul Webber     159     150    175
8     01/35-      Planet Of Sound315 9    11-1    Philip Hobbs     158     122    136
9     3/5P-2      Cooldine23 9    10-10    W P Mullins     153     130    174
10     131P-P     Quinz28 7    10-10    Philip Hobbs     153     163    176
11     12F2-1     Sarando19 4x 6    10-10    Paul Webber     153     138    163
12     111P-2     Aiteen Thirtythree26 7    10-9    Paul Nicholls     152     153    177
13     5312-7     Mon Parrain14 5    10-9    Paul Nicholls     152     174    181
14     6119P-     Blazing Bailey224 9    10-8    Alan King     151     162    176
15     149P-4     Hey Big Spender14 8    10-8    Colin Tizzard     151     179    180
16     21431      Blazing Tempo16 7    10-8    W P Mullins     151     167    180
17     B121-      Beshabar224 9    10-7    Tim Vaughan    150     164    176
18     18-U37     Chicago Grey14 8    10-7    Gordon Elliott     150     126    176
19     11134-     Wayward Prince232 7    10-7    Ian Williams     150     141    176
20     62F6-1     Great Endeavour14 7    10-4    David Pipe     147     163    188
21     6649-3     Carruthers14 8    10-3    Mark Bradstock     146     176    179
22     631418     Muirhead28 8    10-3    Noel Meade     146     156    182
23     31311/     Michel Le Bon730 8    10-3    Paul Nicholls     146     —    —
24     1UF-4U     The Giant Bolster14 6    10-3    David Bridgwater     146     131    173
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
25     242F-8     Calgary Bay14 8    10-3    Henrietta Knight     146     159    177
26     111P-      Wymott255 7    10-1    Donald McCain     144     81    182
27     0P6U-2     Razor Royale28 9    10-0    Nigel Twiston-Davies     143     129    177
28     14731      Uncle Junior15 10    9-13    W P Mullins     142     159    174
29     34-U26     Fair Along14 9    9-13    Philip Hobbs     142     148    179
30     1P-15P     Balthazar King14 7    9-12    Philip Hobbs     141     142    173
31     11PB-P     West End Rocker14 9    9-11    Alan King     140     165    174
32     980-54     Ouzbeck49 9    9-11    Emma Lavelle DOUBTFUL     140     150    172
33     123-5F     Tullamore Dew14 9    9-11    Nick Gifford     140     155    176
34     1797-1     Shakalakaboomboom203 7    9-11    Nicky Henderson     140     147    172
35     F65P-6     Madison Du Berlais21 10    9-11    David Pipe     140     128    163
36     028-15     Billie Magern14 7    9-10    Nigel Twiston-Davies     139     139    171
37     P1R-12     Qhilimar27 7    9-8    Charlie Longsdon     137     156    169
38     1P50-P     King Fontaine21 8    9-6    Malcolm Jefferson DOUBTFUL     135     138    146
39     3234-5     Vino Griego15 6    9-4    Gary Moore     133     149    167
40     7-4P19     Gone To Lunch21 11    9-1    Jeremy Scott DOUBTFUL     130     128    166
41     2238/1     Chariot Charger14 7    9-1    Emma Lavelle DOUBTFUL     130     —    166
42     54U12-     General Kutuzov267 7    9-0    Nick Gifford DOUBTFUL     129     148    158
43     4230-3     Neptune Equester63 8    9-0    Brian Ellison     129     144    160
44     5213-7     Alderluck21 8    8-13    Nick Gifford     128     155    163
45     UFP/PP     Air Force One17 9    8-13    Charlie Mann     128     —    —
46     411-U8     Dover´s Hill21 9        Mary Hambro     142     111    149
By:
strontium
When: 15 Nov 11 12:37
When are the next forfeits out? I see the market is suspended.
By:
PeteTheBloke
When: 15 Nov 11 19:45
Prob midday Wednesday strontium. They usually suspend for 24hrs I think.
By:
hemsby
When: 18 Nov 11 08:00
Anyone know if Carruthers has been confirmed as on target for this?

6th in last years race off 156,he is now due to run off 143 (actually dropped another 3 lb after the weights were published)

For me last years race was a much more classy affair,with Denman top weight and Diamond Harry,Burton Port and Weird Al all running off 10-0.

Was quite pleased with Carruthers re-appearance at Cheltenham,where he jumped and travelled well,until possibly blowing up 3 out.If this is the target,imo 25/1 is quite tempting.
By:
hemsby
When: 18 Nov 11 08:03
*should read .....now due to run off 146    (is now rated 143).
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