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TEN2FOLLOWER
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The fickle finger of fate will point away from my fortune, I suppose. :(
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Report Dooberama June 15, 2010 9:20 PM BST
JOCI Club  13 Jun 10 01:37
For me, this is the least interesting TTF competition I can remember for a long time.


Guess you don't have one on 309 points with Mawatheeq and Twice Over to go tomorrow!  Both horses were pretty unpopular, so fingers crossed.
Report JOCI Club June 15, 2010 9:26 PM BST
No, 258, with Timepiece tomorrow and Age of Aquarius on Thursday.

Joint 1st in the monthly comp at the moment with 158 points.

Our one hope is that we have Showcasing in a lot of lists, so a win for him in the Golden Jubilee would be beneficial.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER June 16, 2010 7:38 AM BST
Not looking too good here.
Report REM June 16, 2010 12:24 PM BST
Think I've been a complete arse.

All last season Canford Cliffs was the horse for me (esp as I live not that far away) and then I manage to talk myself into SNA, Fencingmaster and Pollenator. Goldikova getting the upper hand with Paco Boy.

APOB 3yos struggling.

Poor show by me.
Report JOCI Club June 16, 2010 9:14 PM BST
Joint 2nd in monthly and 58th in Ascot comp. Great result in PoW Stakes. Presvis' dire show means you've not seen the last of me on here! Devil
Report JOCI Club June 16, 2010 10:41 PM BST
Really need Age Of Aquarius to dot up tomorrow to put us in with a shout, but far from confident.
Report Waiting for Godot June 17, 2010 9:16 AM BST
Good to see that the whiff of possible victory has lifted the spirits of our genial chairman!
Report JOCI Club June 17, 2010 9:20 AM BST
I'm afraid that the 'whiff' could turn into a bad smell over the next day or so though.
Report Dooberama June 17, 2010 10:49 PM BST
Got one in 16th and another 6 in the top 200.  Twice Over would have been a really good result, but wasn't to be. Music Show should see me in the prize money.

Given how many chances I have had to fly up the table,it would be a shame if they all missed :(
Report JOCI Club June 17, 2010 11:48 PM BST
Good going. If both Music Show and Showcasing win, then that will bring another of our lists into play.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER June 18, 2010 5:25 PM BST
LAST year's Group 2 DFS May Hill Stakes winner Pollenator, who finished last of 17 in Wednesday's Sandringham Handicap at Royal Ascot, could have run her last race.

Connections went into this season with high hopes for the Motivator filly, but following a disappointing performance in the StanJames.com 1,000 Guineas and defeat at Newbury, her most recent flop could be the last straw.
Report Princequillo June 20, 2010 10:31 PM BST
Joci...I would really be interested in how you would tackle the subtitutions if you were owner of the group currently standing 3rd overall.
Report JOCI Club June 21, 2010 12:14 AM BST
Just had a very quick look (literally), and for me key decisions would include (1) whether the group felt that they could get Workforce turned over in at least one and preferably both of the King George and The Arc. The list doesn't have Workforce and those ahead do. For me, including Workforce would be a perfectly feasible defensive move, to ensure the list would lose ground on those ahead, or be surpassed by those currently just behind, who include Workforce (impressive in Derby and potentially still plenty to come). If they felt that Wokforce had done all his scoring (a bold call), then a potential alternative like Harbinger might come into the equation.

(2) the other key horse for me would be Paco Boy. For many, the moral victor of the Queen Anne, there are two bonus races ahead (Sussex and QE11) that could be his for the taking, as my suspicion is he won't come up against the likes of Goldikova in those races. A potential 100 points is not to be sniffed at, and also several of the lists behind have Paco Boy (but the lists in front currently don't).

Of course, none of the above can legislate for the decisions of the owners of the other lists, including those in front, which could mean that whatever couse of action taken by the 3rd placed list could easily be neutralised by the decsions of the owners of the lists in 1st and 2nd place.

The list in 3rd has Rip Van Winkle, who despite it's relatively poor showing first time out, could still end up as a big player in races like the Eclipse. 

In short, I'd be keener on more of a defensively minded strategy, plugging any obvious gaps (e.g. Workforce) and then chancing to good fortune that some of my differentiating horses, Sariska, Holberg, Sagacious could do me a few favours.
Report REM June 21, 2010 9:17 AM BST
105 points and more than 12,000 ahead of me. Could be my worst performance ever.

Laugh
Report JOCI Club June 24, 2010 8:45 PM BST
Seta picked up anhother useful 12 points for our leading list (now 298 pts) and 198 pts for June.

Doesn't have anything in the big race on the weekend though sadly.
Report JOCI Club June 27, 2010 11:13 AM BST
Jan Vemeer, followed by Dar Re Mi in the Eclipse would bring another list into contention.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER June 27, 2010 11:15 AM BST
Just been looking at this.
I've a couple around the 3000th place mark for June.
And a few around 4000th overall.  But they aren't looking too good.

Careful subs for me me now.  Laugh  But with only 250 in the book, it's not easy to find something that's a bit hidden.
Report JOCI Club June 27, 2010 11:20 AM BST
Around 200th overall and 10th for June, but no chance of winning (either).
Report Dooberama June 27, 2010 11:53 AM BST
Got 6 on the main leaderboard.  Jan Vemeer and Twice Over would probably be ideal, though I have the lot covered in the Eclipse (Twice Over/Zacinto/RVW/Sariska/Dar Re Mi).  I guess that means an epic fail is on the cards with some 40/1 no hoper flying home.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER June 27, 2010 1:16 PM BST
Come on JOCI!!

Let'd me and you chuck in a bit of Dunkirk Spirit.   The £10k prizes aren't much worse than the top prize.  Let's try for those.  Laugh
Report TEN2FOLLOWER June 27, 2010 1:17 PM BST
And WP for the June 10th place.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER July 3, 2010 9:09 AM BST
July comp will start properly today.  Happy
Report JOCI Club July 3, 2010 10:20 AM BST
Indeed....something to look forward to.
Report JOCI Club July 3, 2010 10:34 PM BST
That's July over for us already...not a trace of Twice Over amongst our lists. Laugh
Report TEN2FOLLOWER July 4, 2010 11:19 AM BST
Not even once over for me JOCI.
There's always August/Ebor....
Report REM July 4, 2010 12:11 PM BST
My only horse in the eclipse refused to enter the stalls.

Laugh
Report JOCI Club July 4, 2010 3:37 PM BST
At least he'll be fresh for next time.

Penis Turpin won well today....only in one list though. Sad
Report TEN2FOLLOWER July 10, 2010 7:53 PM BST
Equiano another notable absentee.
Report JOCI Club July 11, 2010 11:32 AM BST
Bonus window opens today (until Friday).
Report hippie July 16, 2010 1:20 PM BST
Bonus window closing in less than 5 hours.
Report JOCI Club July 16, 2010 1:41 PM BST
Just finished ours.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER July 16, 2010 2:38 PM BST
All done.  Happy
Report Princequillo July 17, 2010 8:43 AM BST
https://ttf.totesport.com/TTFLeaderboards/index.html

only two bothered to sub on leaderboard, monthly even more misterious
Report Princequillo July 17, 2010 8:46 AM BST
Have two in the top 20, three in the top 50, and four in the top 100...fingers crossed
Report Waiting for Godot July 17, 2010 9:00 AM BST
Leaderboard"last updated" 15 July internally and probably only includes bonus horses added by then-complete list will probably appear in next update post closing date 6pm 16 July
Report JOCI Club July 17, 2010 10:04 AM BST
JOCI Club Joined: 13 Mar 04
Replies: 3628 21 Jun 10 00:14 
Just had a very quick look (literally), and for me key decisions would include (1) whether the group felt that they could get Workforce turned over in at least one and preferably both of the King George and The Arc. The list doesn't have Workforce and those ahead do. For me, including Workforce would be a perfectly feasible defensive move, to ensure the list would lose ground on those ahead, or be surpassed by those currently just behind, who include Workforce (impressive in Derby and potentially still plenty to come). If they felt that Wokforce had done all his scoring (a bold call), then a potential alternative like Harbinger might come into the equation.

(2) the other key horse for me would be Paco Boy. For many, the moral victor of the Queen Anne, there are two bonus races ahead (Sussex and QE11) that could be his for the taking, as my suspicion is he won't come up against the likes of Goldikova in those races. A potential 100 points is not to be sniffed at, and also several of the lists behind have Paco Boy (but the lists in front currently don't).

Of course, none of the above can legislate for the decisions of the owners of the other lists, including those in front, which could mean that whatever couse of action taken by the 3rd placed list could easily be neutralised by the decsions of the owners of the lists in 1st and 2nd place.

The list in 3rd has Rip Van Winkle, who despite it's relatively poor showing first time out, could still end up as a big player in races like the Eclipse.

In short, I'd be keener on more of a defensively minded strategy, plugging any obvious gaps (e.g. Workforce) and then chancing to good fortune that some of my differentiating horses, Sariska, Holberg, Sagacious could do me a few favours.


Princequillo - what did you / they do in the end?
Report TEN2FOLLOWER July 17, 2010 10:14 AM BST
I've just thought about the Ebor meeting when making my subs.
Hopefully the £10k for that prize will double up when they pay me the August one too.  Laugh
Report Dooberama July 17, 2010 12:01 PM BST
I have one in 5th.  I really struggled to decide on the subs.  I was very tempted to put in both Harbinger and Workforce, but thought it was too defensive, and went for Workforce and Starspangledbanner in the end.  I have other combinations of those 3 in the other lists I have in the top 200. 

I think the other obvious subs were Twice Over and Canford Cliffs but I have those in most of my top lists.

A big run from Mawatheeq before the end of the season would do wonders for me.

Wish I'd known Ovedose was coming back for some of my lower lists.
Report JOCI Club July 18, 2010 2:03 PM BST
Mawatheeq out of King George.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER July 18, 2010 5:17 PM BST
Not many points around today.
Snow Fairy not in.
Overdose won in Bratislava.
Report hippie July 18, 2010 6:46 PM BST
Buzzword won the Group 1 Deutsches Derby.
Report Princequillo July 18, 2010 7:49 PM BST
No points for Overdose today
Report Dooberama July 18, 2010 9:27 PM BST
Hmm, this problem with the subs isn't making me feel happy.  I would like to see how much I need to rely on a Mawatheeq recovery :(

Was Buzzword an option?
Report JOCI Club July 18, 2010 9:49 PM BST
Buzzword was in the list of horses, but even if I had known he was running in the Deutches Dervby, I'd have ignored him, as the points for bonus horses do not count until next Saturday. We have him in a single list (that's not doing very well).
Report Princequillo July 19, 2010 6:28 PM BST
Harbinger a bad result for you Dooby. Starspangled a good sub if he comes up trumps, rumoured to be taking on Canford in the Sussex..
Report Princequillo July 19, 2010 6:29 PM BST
You and the leader must be fearing RVW too
Report Princequillo July 19, 2010 6:43 PM BST
Firestarter and P Hernon not made their subs
Report Princequillo July 19, 2010 6:48 PM BST
never been a more open comp at this stage
Report Princequillo July 19, 2010 6:49 PM BST
Overdose not going for Nunthorpe
Report TEN2FOLLOWER July 24, 2010 3:36 PM BST
Amazed here at all those not made subs when high up in July list.  [:x]
Report li July 26, 2010 9:12 AM BST
Anyone here playing the Racegoers Club version of the flat TTF?
Just wondering what the remaining bonus races are.
I'll start a new thread if there's any interest.
Report Princequillo July 30, 2010 3:43 PM BST
I actually dabbled with the idea of putting in both Age of Aquarius and Borderlescott, went for Workforce and Harbinger in the end. Lieing 7th overall.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER July 30, 2010 7:22 PM BST
Borderlescott now out for season.
Report JOCI Club July 30, 2010 11:24 PM BST
Princequillo Joined: 11 Sep 09
Replies: 156 30 Jul 10 15:43 
I actually dabbled with the idea of putting in both Age of Aquarius and Borderlescott, went for Workforce and Harbinger in the end. Lieing 7th overall.


That's good going!
Report Hawk_Wings_Lockinge August 1, 2010 11:45 AM BST
Finished joint 2nd in the July prize. Fencing Master's defeat in Ireland at odds-on last week has made the difference between 1st and 2nd. Hopefully things will go a bit better in the Overall competition.

Princequillo, you're in a good position, best of luck.
Report JOCI Club August 1, 2010 12:47 PM BST
Unlucky HWL !
Report hippie August 1, 2010 2:44 PM BST
Goldikova = 10 Group 1 wins Love
Report JOCI Club August 1, 2010 3:21 PM BST
Excellent horse and great start to the August comp!
Report Princequillo August 1, 2010 4:44 PM BST
The guy who was second in the monthly comp must still be sitting in front of the tv with his jaw on the floor. He had Age of Aquarious for top prize. Goldikova a great start for the August comp for about 8,000 of us JOCI...
Report JOCI Club August 1, 2010 4:57 PM BST
Yep, but at least that puts us ahead of all those without her.
Report JOCI Club August 7, 2010 1:43 PM BST
Career threatening injury suffered by Harbinger.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER August 7, 2010 3:17 PM BST
Well played, HWL.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER August 13, 2010 7:23 PM BST
Brought this back up for Ebor comp.  Happy
Report Princequillo August 13, 2010 8:41 PM BST
So what you got up your sleeve Ten
Report TEN2FOLLOWER August 13, 2010 9:04 PM BST
I was once denied the Ebor £10k when 25/1 shot Super Tassa beat Sacred Song in the Yorkshire Oaks.

I've been determined to win it since....
Report JOCI Club August 13, 2010 9:18 PM BST
Monthlies or York now our only hope for recompense!
Report Princequillo August 14, 2010 5:38 PM BST
I have Rewilding in the Voltigeur
Report TEN2FOLLOWER August 14, 2010 6:17 PM BST
I've got horses in many of the big races.
I'm just hopeful that I've got the right combination in one entry. Laugh
Report hippie August 15, 2010 2:45 PM BST
Makfi wins the Jacques le Marois.

I'm blaming the conditions for Goldikova's defeat. Sad
Report TEN2FOLLOWER August 17, 2010 7:22 PM BST
I've Rip Van Winkle in some lines.
But maybe those with him and Twice Over have the edge?
Report Hawk_Wings_Lockinge August 21, 2010 4:57 PM BST
Finished joint 4th in the Ebor meeting prize. Getting the feeling it just isn't my season. Top list overall is in 33rd, but I think that's destined to finish just outside the money.
Report JOCI Club August 21, 2010 9:41 PM BST
495 points is the best I can muster overall, and 135 in the monthly competition.
Report Princequillo August 22, 2010 2:22 PM BST
Gutted with Sariska, would have put me third overall. Nice to see Sagacious entered up having changed stables. St Nicholas Abbey wil improve me a few points on those that have ten scorers when he takes the Champion stakes. Guinees form working out quite well and St Nic was really up against it in light of subsequent events. Hoping too that holberg improves for being fresh when he takes in the Irish st Leger, a leger double for Godolphin, think they did that once...I wish.
Report JOCI Club August 22, 2010 2:55 PM BST
Gives you chances at least, especially the two less popular horses Holberg and Sagacious. Big ask for St Nic first time out though (does he have a prep planned)?
Report hippie August 22, 2010 9:21 PM BST
brought in Stacelita (won the Jean Romanet today) for a crack at the monthly prize. Unfortunately Sariska and Twice Over didn't read the script and the German group 1's Jukebox Jury was supposed to farm are being picked off by Campanologist.

oh well, back to the drawing board.
Report REM August 23, 2010 9:36 AM BST
Anyone even getting a sniff of a prize has done very well imo. About 15,000 entries between me and gloryShocked
Report Princequillo September 2, 2010 7:38 PM BST
wish lists ?
Report JOCI Club September 3, 2010 12:15 AM BST
All to play for with the September monthly prize. Plenty of action this weekend.
Report JOCI Club September 4, 2010 3:14 PM BST
A nice 29 points to kick start September from Lillie Langtry!
Report JOCI Club September 4, 2010 3:55 PM BST
Even better, Cape Blanco and Rip Van Winkle in same list. However, also had Starspangledbanner in same list, which was a let down.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER September 4, 2010 6:38 PM BST
I'm out.  Sad
Report Princequillo September 5, 2010 8:05 AM BST
Starspangled go pacemaker for Rip in the Q11
Report JOCI Club September 13, 2010 9:00 PM BST
Have reached the dizzy(?) heights of jt 11th in the September monthy comp, but not sure where the rest of my points are going to be coming from. Sad
Report REM September 28, 2010 12:23 PM BST
Any crumbs of hope left for you guys?

I'm starting to cast an eye over the jumps now, but also looking to put a few markers down for next year's flat.

Big disappointment this flat and I think I have to learn an important lesson; always go with your gut instinct and don't be persuaded otherwise. The last few years I've spent the winter with a list of must-haves - only to ditch them when I start reading so-called experts opinions in the spring and then find that I've thrown away major point scorers. That hurts far more than if I'd stuck with my own opinions because it's far easier to accept and understand if they fail.

Anyway, I love the jumps and might cough up a major perm which I haven't done since the £5 days.
Report JOCI Club September 28, 2010 9:59 PM BST
Close but no cigar in the September prize. Roll on the Jumps comp too!
Report TEN2FOLLOWER September 29, 2010 8:53 PM BST
I got 300th ish in the Sept.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER October 3, 2010 10:27 AM BST
Leaders could get a shakeup today.
Report hippie October 3, 2010 2:36 PM BST
Goldikova = 11 Group 1 wins Love


If you didn't see the race it's worth it just to hear Bartlett's idiocy. Regal Parade passed her with Nicholls rowing away like Steve Redgrave and although Peslier was sat motionless Bartlett declared her beat without hesitation.
Report JOCI Club October 3, 2010 9:58 PM BST
Superb horse. Well done to Workforce for coming back and disproving his doubters.
Report REM October 4, 2010 12:46 AM BST
hippie Joined: 07 Jun 05
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RVW is the top 8-10f horse...Goldikova is another who could mop up easy points in fillies races, but against the colts might be 2nd best.


What colts would those be? Goldikova is officially the best miler in the world and of the top milers still in training she's already beaten Zacinto, Delegator and Paco Boy (in the same race that she beat Henrythenavigator). Rip Van Winkle's achieved nothing in comparison to what she's done and as for him being the top 10f horse it would help if he had actually won over the distance. 

This girl is comparable to Miesque


hippie - good call. Paco Boy wasn't my worse selection though.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER October 4, 2010 7:24 PM BST
491 pts - 2402nd place.
Report JOCI Club October 4, 2010 8:04 PM BST
661 points early 300s.

Finished 27th in September month.

On to the jumps.
Report Dooberama October 4, 2010 10:02 PM BST
Started really well.  I must have had 3 or 4 different lists in the top 20 or so at one time or another.  Left with just one list struggling on the bottom of the leaderboard.

It is always hard to get all your best horses in one list, but all the points scored by Cape Blanco in the second half of the season has killed me.
Report REM October 5, 2010 10:27 AM BST
With good judgement you can get close, but to get a prize needs an element of good fortune imo.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER October 16, 2010 7:25 PM BST
Not even updated table today.
The Toat have really forgotten about the flat comp.
Report TEN2FOLLOWER October 17, 2010 11:15 AM BST
Updated - 491 pts in 2766th place.
Report Dooberama October 17, 2010 5:33 PM BST
best list in 103rd.  Two more in the final table.

Big hits: Canford Cliffs and Twice Over: was strongly overweight with both.  Also had Goldikova, RVW, Fame and Glory and Special Duty, each in loads of lists.  After that a whole bunch of underachievers.

Big Misses: Cape Blanco, Workforce (though made up a big chunk of my subs), Harbinger, Starspangledbanner.  I remember dleiberately not putting Harbinger and Workforce together when subbing, which doesn't look too bright now!
Report Hawk_Wings_Lockinge October 18, 2010 11:48 AM BST
Hawk Wing's Lockinge 21 Aug 10 16:57 
Finished joint 4th in the Ebor meeting prize. Getting the feeling it just isn't my season. Top list overall is in 33rd, but I think that's destined to finish just outside the money.


Finished joint 19th, and had 2 other lists on the final leaderboard. If only I could have been this accurate with some of my bets through the Flat season!
Report JOCI Club October 19, 2010 8:00 PM BST
Finished 143rd on 670 points. Good effort from you other guys!
Report manyana October 22, 2010 3:32 PM BST
My letter arrived today from tote..Quite like the prize money changes..allows extra focus on some of the other key races during the season.(especially focus on the aintree meeting at end of year)
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