New Posts For Thread: Eclipse - Sandown July 5thhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31878037/eclipse---sandown-july-5thA good set of entries but with the ground going to be like a road there will surely only be about 5-7 runners.Ombudsman was very impressive at Ascot and is a worthy favourite but too short for me to have a bet.I don’t like Sosie on the ground, alsoDelashay • July 7, 2025 9:10 AM BSTFor me the ratings and form real,y take on another dimension when horses travel. I don’t have an idea of how he’s rated but I’d call Romantic Warrior a proper horse. In that he left his back yard where he wahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31878037/eclipse---sandown-july-5th?post_id=565060703#565060703Delashay • July 7, 2025 9:10 AM BSTFor me the ratings and form real,y take on another dimension when horses travel. I don’t have an idea of how he’s rated but I’d call Romantic Warrior a proper horse. In that he left his back yard where he waSat, 01 Nov 2025 17:36:30 -0500Figgis I remember him more in his mile races, the firm was franked the next year. Good spot Sandown, I’d thought that it was more than 10lbs. Delacroix upsides shadowed Ombudsman and I’d love to know how much he’s grown and strengthened weighthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31878037/eclipse---sandown-july-5th?post_id=564836399#564836399Figgis I remember him more in his mile races, the firm was franked the next year. Good spot Sandown, I’d thought that it was more than 10lbs. Delacroix upsides shadowed Ombudsman and I’d love to know how much he’s grown and strengthened weightMon, 07 Jul 2025 10:58:21 -0500I noticed that the WFA scale used for the Eclipse was 10lb and not 12lb as the 2017 WFA revision has it. I asked AI to explain why so and apparently this happens sometimes when the authorities look at longterm outcomes for elite races. The RPRs showhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31878037/eclipse---sandown-july-5th?post_id=564836255#564836255I noticed that the WFA scale used for the Eclipse was 10lb and not 12lb as the 2017 WFA revision has it. I asked AI to explain why so and apparently this happens sometimes when the authorities look at longterm outcomes for elite races. The RPRs showMon, 07 Jul 2025 09:53:56 -0500I also believe Paddington was a few pounds better at a mile than 10f, but can't blame them for wanting the 10f races.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31878037/eclipse---sandown-july-5th?post_id=564835735#564835735I also believe Paddington was a few pounds better at a mile than 10f, but can't blame them for wanting the 10f races.Mon, 07 Jul 2025 06:40:38 -0500Actually I'm not sure how he was rated by the firms but I think generally he was underrated. Might've been different if he'd gone out on a high, but he was unsurprisingly burned out by the time of his final race.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31878037/eclipse---sandown-july-5th?post_id=564835731#564835731Actually I'm not sure how he was rated by the firms but I think generally he was underrated. Might've been different if he'd gone out on a high, but he was unsurprisingly burned out by the time of his final race.Mon, 07 Jul 2025 06:38:24 -0500Must admit I had to look up the result for that, not one that stayed with me Figgis. He was on a real roll at the time.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31878037/eclipse---sandown-july-5th?post_id=564835713#564835713Must admit I had to look up the result for that, not one that stayed with me Figgis. He was on a real roll at the time.Mon, 07 Jul 2025 06:31:11 -0500I rate them equally, although I would probably put the small p next to Delacroix, as he possibly could improve again, but I wouldn't bank on it. That Eclipse win was still nothing special, however, even if it was exciting and dramatic to watch. I'd shttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31878037/eclipse---sandown-july-5th?post_id=564835655#564835655I rate them equally, although I would probably put the small p next to Delacroix, as he possibly could improve again, but I wouldn't bank on it. That Eclipse win was still nothing special, however, even if it was exciting and dramatic to watch. I'd sMon, 07 Jul 2025 06:05:55 -0500I’ve not seen them! But saw this Delacroix leapfrogs Derby-winning stablemate into second in this year's three-year-old rankings after Eclipse winhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31878037/eclipse---sandown-july-5th?post_id=564835639#564835639I’ve not seen them! But saw this Delacroix leapfrogs Derby-winning stablemate into second in this year's three-year-old rankings after Eclipse winMon, 07 Jul 2025 05:56:41 -0500Just looking at the Falmouth. It might end up a deeper race than some years but the quality of years gone by is severely lacking. Let's hope something improves on the day, because on paper it looks crap.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31878037/eclipse---sandown-july-5th?post_id=564835599#564835599Just looking at the Falmouth. It might end up a deeper race than some years but the quality of years gone by is severely lacking. Let's hope something improves on the day, because on paper it looks crap.Mon, 07 Jul 2025 05:40:26 -0500Thanks Figgis, I feel that the talent is there regarding Shadow Of Light (he needs cut to show it and the right trip) but as shown am confused by their decision making. The season is getting on and I wonder if Ruling Court hadn’t been redirected ifhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31878037/eclipse---sandown-july-5th?post_id=564835565#564835565Thanks Figgis, I feel that the talent is there regarding Shadow Of Light (he needs cut to show it and the right trip) but as shown am confused by their decision making. The season is getting on and I wonder if Ruling Court hadn’t been redirected ifMon, 07 Jul 2025 05:26:57 -0500