New Posts For Thread: City of Troyhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31835933/city-of-troyWay this is being backed would suggest has wintered well and is the next seriously good flying machine all aboard the choo choo 4/5 or better for the guineas at the mo could look remarkably generous come post time.Well done with your predicted assessment of COT's performance.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31835933/city-of-troy?post_id=564145631#564145631Well done with your predicted assessment of COT's performance.Tue, 09 Jul 2024 13:48:20 -0500The Official Handicapper left the second and third on their marks and called City Of Troy's performance figure 116.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31835933/city-of-troy?post_id=564144147#564144147The Official Handicapper left the second and third on their marks and called City Of Troy's performance figure 116.Tue, 09 Jul 2024 04:04:56 -0500Yes that's my way of working. I prefer to rate the performance than to state such a horse is, say, a 116 horse, for example.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31835933/city-of-troy?post_id=564142699#564142699Yes that's my way of working. I prefer to rate the performance than to state such a horse is, say, a 116 horse, for example.Mon, 08 Jul 2024 10:48:17 -0500Do you give a figure to horses performances.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31835933/city-of-troy?post_id=564142493#564142493Do you give a figure to horses performances.Mon, 08 Jul 2024 09:38:47 -0500I don't have Ghostwriter improving either, he ran a similar race in the Guineas. I have Al Riffa running his best ever race as an older horse, but he went backwards after winning the National Stakes as a 2yo. Plus many runners appear to show improvedhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31835933/city-of-troy?post_id=564142393#564142393I don't have Ghostwriter improving either, he ran a similar race in the Guineas. I have Al Riffa running his best ever race as an older horse, but he went backwards after winning the National Stakes as a 2yo. Plus many runners appear to show improvedMon, 08 Jul 2024 09:18:16 -0500I cant believe the second and third showed any improvement on their Official ratings. The second was rated 2lb higher than the third and beat him1L. So they have just about run to the ounce. I make City Of Troy running to 116. 8lb below the Officialhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31835933/city-of-troy?post_id=564142355#564142355I cant believe the second and third showed any improvement on their Official ratings. The second was rated 2lb higher than the third and beat him1L. So they have just about run to the ounce. I make City Of Troy running to 116. 8lb below the OfficialMon, 08 Jul 2024 09:07:46 -0500in comparison with O'Brien's previous Derby winners, I rate the actual level of his Derby winning performance equal to Camelot's Derby win (which looked impressive but was nothing special), it was significantly behind his best Derby winner Galileo, ihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31835933/city-of-troy?post_id=564142331#564142331in comparison with O'Brien's previous Derby winners, I rate the actual level of his Derby winning performance equal to Camelot's Derby win (which looked impressive but was nothing special), it was significantly behind his best Derby winner Galileo, iMon, 08 Jul 2024 09:00:09 -0500what would you put the Eclipse second and third onI rate them exactly how they ran to the beaten margins on the day. Whether I'd expect the second to repeat that next time is another matter.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31835933/city-of-troy?post_id=564142317#564142317what would you put the Eclipse second and third onI rate them exactly how they ran to the beaten margins on the day. Whether I'd expect the second to repeat that next time is another matter.Mon, 08 Jul 2024 08:54:54 -0500If you rate his run 1lb below his Derby win, what would you put the Eclipse second and third on.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31835933/city-of-troy?post_id=564142281#564142281If you rate his run 1lb below his Derby win, what would you put the Eclipse second and third on.Mon, 08 Jul 2024 08:40:09 -0500I understand he won the Derby. But, I do not think it was not a strong renewal; the 2nd did not uphold the form; the 3rd was "assisted" in the Irish version. The jury is still out on The Eclipse by some, me included.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31835933/city-of-troy?post_id=564141303#564141303I understand he won the Derby. But, I do not think it was not a strong renewal; the 2nd did not uphold the form; the 3rd was "assisted" in the Irish version. The jury is still out on The Eclipse by some, me included.Sun, 07 Jul 2024 14:09:53 -0500