New Posts For Thread: 2000 Guineas...https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31814819/2000-guineasJust had a butchers for this & see that City Of Troy is generally a 2/1 chance with1 firm going 5/2,there is a firm going as short as 13/8.Who backs @ these pricesfor a race 8/9 months away.He does look a good animal but they are short.Again, you might be right Figgis, but beating class 2 horses with a turn of foot isn't the same as beating group 1 animals.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31814819/2000-guineas?post_id=564004911#564004911Again, you might be right Figgis, but beating class 2 horses with a turn of foot isn't the same as beating group 1 animals.Sat, 11 May 2024 13:09:52 -0500Howellsy, but in those a.w races he showed the turn of foot he can find in a slowly run affair. He's going to be extremely difficult to beat.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31814819/2000-guineas?post_id=564004339#564004339Howellsy, but in those a.w races he showed the turn of foot he can find in a slowly run affair. He's going to be extremely difficult to beat.Sat, 11 May 2024 09:34:37 -0500You may well be right Figgis - it's not obvious to me that an older horse would be able to give him weight in that sort of race - but how often will he get those circumstances from now on? Straight track, strong gallop - France or QE2 possibly.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31814819/2000-guineas?post_id=564004309#564004309You may well be right Figgis - it's not obvious to me that an older horse would be able to give him weight in that sort of race - but how often will he get those circumstances from now on? Straight track, strong gallop - France or QE2 possibly.Sat, 11 May 2024 09:29:45 -0500Howellsy, well it remains to be seen if I'm right, but I'll be willing to take shorter odds about him than most Guineas winners, and backing him like he's a well above average winner. It's unlikely another 3yo miler will come along as good, and the ohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31814819/2000-guineas?post_id=563997849#563997849Howellsy, well it remains to be seen if I'm right, but I'll be willing to take shorter odds about him than most Guineas winners, and backing him like he's a well above average winner. It's unlikely another 3yo miler will come along as good, and the oWed, 08 May 2024 15:38:22 -0500Figgis, I make his an average winning time figure. For me it's roughly the same (76) as I had the top colts on last season - Ancient Wisdom (75), COT (74) and Henry L. (75). I have Rosallion just 1 pound quicker than he did in France.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31814819/2000-guineas?post_id=563997815#563997815Figgis, I make his an average winning time figure. For me it's roughly the same (76) as I had the top colts on last season - Ancient Wisdom (75), COT (74) and Henry L. (75). I have Rosallion just 1 pound quicker than he did in France.Wed, 08 May 2024 15:26:21 -0500In comparison the RP ratings2024 - 123 Notable Speech2023 - 120 Chaldean2022 - 123 Coroebus2021 - 120 Poetic Flare2020 - 121 Kameko2019 - 121 Magna Greciahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31814819/2000-guineas?post_id=563994759#563994759In comparison the RP ratings2024 - 123 Notable Speech2023 - 120 Chaldean2022 - 123 Coroebus2021 - 120 Poetic Flare2020 - 121 Kameko2019 - 121 Magna GreciaTue, 07 May 2024 09:38:05 -0500After Timeform proved correct to rate Notable Speech with a big chance of winning the Guineas (ignoring COT obviously) I'm surprised they haven't rated his win higher.Previous Timeform ratings after the last 5 Guineas2023 - 123 Chaldean2022 - 127 Corhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31814819/2000-guineas?post_id=563994343#563994343After Timeform proved correct to rate Notable Speech with a big chance of winning the Guineas (ignoring COT obviously) I'm surprised they haven't rated his win higher.Previous Timeform ratings after the last 5 Guineas2023 - 123 Chaldean2022 - 127 CorTue, 07 May 2024 06:59:06 -0500City Of Troy,Derby bound next,S/Life.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31814819/2000-guineas?post_id=563992359#563992359City Of Troy,Derby bound next,S/Life.Mon, 06 May 2024 08:30:42 -0500As for City Of Troy, even though I believe he has been massively overrated that obviously wasn't his running. I reckon if he'd run to form he'd have finished about a length behind Rosallion. A third in that Guineas could be good enough to win an ordihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31814819/2000-guineas?post_id=563992213#563992213As for City Of Troy, even though I believe he has been massively overrated that obviously wasn't his running. I reckon if he'd run to form he'd have finished about a length behind Rosallion. A third in that Guineas could be good enough to win an ordiMon, 06 May 2024 07:28:19 -0500“I think this is probably the best Guineas we have seen in 10 years.” Richard Hannon.The cynic in me would normally say well he would say that as is horse was beaten into second, but I actually agree. I would like to see Hannon gain some compensahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31814819/2000-guineas?post_id=563990727#563990727“I think this is probably the best Guineas we have seen in 10 years.” Richard Hannon.The cynic in me would normally say well he would say that as is horse was beaten into second, but I actually agree. I would like to see Hannon gain some compensaSun, 05 May 2024 11:43:40 -0500