New Posts For Thread: king georgehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31764983/king-georgelooks a perfect race for desert crown . As they pointed out they'll do Westover for toe also for freshness . The connections of Westover are making a mistake running him here imo . He should be mothballed till the niel imoNo bet for me unless Luxembourg/Emily Upjohn/Desert Crown are in the line-up. I'm not interested in the older horses for this Arc.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31764983/king-george?post_id=562453039#562453039No bet for me unless Luxembourg/Emily Upjohn/Desert Crown are in the line-up. I'm not interested in the older horses for this Arc.Fri, 12 Aug 2022 10:59:41 -0500Sandown, yes there's still time but at the moment it's looking odds against a really outstanding performer emerging. Admittedly I wouldn't have wanted a bean on Found until she really upped her form in the Irish Champion Stakes, so I know that anythihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31764983/king-george?post_id=562451451#562451451Sandown, yes there's still time but at the moment it's looking odds against a really outstanding performer emerging. Admittedly I wouldn't have wanted a bean on Found until she really upped her form in the Irish Champion Stakes, so I know that anythiThu, 11 Aug 2022 15:32:10 -0500Figgis. We're still 7 weeks away from the Arc so much can happen.There are 2 at the front of the market at 9..0 so its wide open. Nothing yet dominates the betting. Pyledriver at 17.5 is probably about right but I'd need its chance to be about 9.0 tohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31764983/king-george?post_id=562451393#562451393Figgis. We're still 7 weeks away from the Arc so much can happen.There are 2 at the front of the market at 9..0 so its wide open. Nothing yet dominates the betting. Pyledriver at 17.5 is probably about right but I'd need its chance to be about 9.0 toThu, 11 Aug 2022 15:00:39 -0500I'd be very surprised if Pyledriver will improve again from the KG to the Arc, but the point is will he need to? I'll keep things to this millennium, so since 2000 nearly every 3yo that won the Arc was either a stand out or at least fairly obvious fahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31764983/king-george?post_id=562451327#562451327I'd be very surprised if Pyledriver will improve again from the KG to the Arc, but the point is will he need to? I'll keep things to this millennium, so since 2000 nearly every 3yo that won the Arc was either a stand out or at least fairly obvious faThu, 11 Aug 2022 14:29:57 -0500Just to be accurate. If we are looking for the winner of the KG to win the Arc in the same year then 36 have tried, 7 have won the Arc (19.4%) 11 have been placed (30.6%) and 18 have been unplaced (50.0). Now that is not a bad record but AT's own lishttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31764983/king-george?post_id=562451179#562451179Just to be accurate. If we are looking for the winner of the KG to win the Arc in the same year then 36 have tried, 7 have won the Arc (19.4%) 11 have been placed (30.6%) and 18 have been unplaced (50.0). Now that is not a bad record but AT's own lisThu, 11 Aug 2022 13:35:37 -0500i say 3 from 12 - that's just a guess - I can only actually find 6 horses that have attempted it and 3 have won. there may be more but if there isn't then a 50% strike rate is very impressive. perhaps we can sayWhoever wins the KG this year, especialhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31764983/king-george?post_id=562451081#562451081i say 3 from 12 - that's just a guess - I can only actually find 6 horses that have attempted it and 3 have won. there may be more but if there isn't then a 50% strike rate is very impressive. perhaps we can sayWhoever wins the KG this year, especialThu, 11 Aug 2022 13:01:32 -0500Conduit.Plus Workforce won the Arc,although he was btn @Ascot.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31764983/king-george?post_id=562451069#562451069Conduit.Plus Workforce won the Arc,although he was btn @Ascot.Thu, 11 Aug 2022 12:59:49 -0500how many King George winners have gone straight to the Arc? Failures I can think of Generous and Adayar - maybe Ela Mana Mou? even if it's only 3 from 12 that have won the Arc I suspect that holds up as well as any other "prep race".https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31764983/king-george?post_id=562451049#562451049how many King George winners have gone straight to the Arc? Failures I can think of Generous and Adayar - maybe Ela Mana Mou? even if it's only 3 from 12 that have won the Arc I suspect that holds up as well as any other "prep race".Thu, 11 Aug 2022 12:54:20 -0500Firstly, we don't know if Pyledriver will take in a prep before the Arc. Secondly, it's hardly surprising that not many horses didn't prep in the KG directly before the Arc, there's about 10 weeks between them, and most connections of a KG winner wilhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31764983/king-george?post_id=562451047#562451047Firstly, we don't know if Pyledriver will take in a prep before the Arc. Secondly, it's hardly surprising that not many horses didn't prep in the KG directly before the Arc, there's about 10 weeks between them, and most connections of a KG winner wilThu, 11 Aug 2022 12:54:10 -0500Figgis. I agree that the record of French runners in the Arc in the past 7 years isn't as good as when Treve and Zarkava were around for example, and certainly they have little at the top end of this years market, but my point is that they always tahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31764983/king-george?post_id=562451011#562451011Figgis. I agree that the record of French runners in the Arc in the past 7 years isn't as good as when Treve and Zarkava were around for example, and certainly they have little at the top end of this years market, but my point is that they always taThu, 11 Aug 2022 12:41:52 -0500