New Posts For Thread: the oakshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31682827/the-oaksbrief write up ,been looking at the classics markets and where better to start than the ballydoyle inmates, santa barbara is near the top of the market and could be anything but no value at the price imo ,a whole host of promising fillies and one i lNo surprise that Coolmore are ducking the KG with this supposed superstar filly.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31682827/the-oaks?post_id=561141043#561141043No surprise that Coolmore are ducking the KG with this supposed superstar filly.Tue, 29 Jun 2021 08:17:53 -0500I'm not being deliberately argumentative Sandown but my faith in "the clock" disappeared many years ago. I don't know how good the form is and am as much in the dark as anyone. Was chuffed for the jockey though, it clearly meant a lot to him. Be lhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31682827/the-oaks?post_id=561033575#561033575I'm not being deliberately argumentative Sandown but my faith in "the clock" disappeared many years ago. I don't know how good the form is and am as much in the dark as anyone. Was chuffed for the jockey though, it clearly meant a lot to him. Be lMon, 07 Jun 2021 19:03:56 -0500Very surprised at the high ratings for Snowfall. The Coronation Cup has seen some genuine Gp1 winners, but just as often it's a pretty weak affair for the class. It seems that people have rated this year's up to par. Personally I thought this year'shttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31682827/the-oaks?post_id=561033137#561033137Very surprised at the high ratings for Snowfall. The Coronation Cup has seen some genuine Gp1 winners, but just as often it's a pretty weak affair for the class. It seems that people have rated this year's up to par. Personally I thought this year'sMon, 07 Jun 2021 15:23:09 -0500I'm giving Adayar a speed figure that is 1 point higher than the last two winners. Sorry, I can't make it any higher, much as I'd love to. I also wonder whether he might have been flattered by a favoured strip of ground on the inner. I'm much less cohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31682827/the-oaks?post_id=561032881#561032881I'm giving Adayar a speed figure that is 1 point higher than the last two winners. Sorry, I can't make it any higher, much as I'd love to. I also wonder whether he might have been flattered by a favoured strip of ground on the inner. I'm much less coMon, 07 Jun 2021 14:11:55 -0500That said, in a match with Snowfall at 12f I would have to go with the fillySandown, if horses always ran to the pound, which we both know they don't, I would expect Adayar to beat the filly about 4 lengths on reasonable ground over 12f. As we both ahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31682827/the-oaks?post_id=561031515#561031515That said, in a match with Snowfall at 12f I would have to go with the fillySandown, if horses always ran to the pound, which we both know they don't, I would expect Adayar to beat the filly about 4 lengths on reasonable ground over 12f. As we both aMon, 07 Jun 2021 09:47:44 -0500is the fact that a rag outsider ended up the main opposer at the business end of any significance in grading down the win? In my opinion no. I mean yeah sometimes it can be, but when everything else about a race tells me I've seen a good performancehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31682827/the-oaks?post_id=561031467#561031467is the fact that a rag outsider ended up the main opposer at the business end of any significance in grading down the win? In my opinion no. I mean yeah sometimes it can be, but when everything else about a race tells me I've seen a good performanceMon, 07 Jun 2021 09:24:09 -0500You make a valid point LH about the rank outsider being close enough to Ayadar for the form to be thought possibly suspect but the clock doesn't lie and until the theory is disproven, I'll put the winners at least on a high rating.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31682827/the-oaks?post_id=561031441#561031441You make a valid point LH about the rank outsider being close enough to Ayadar for the form to be thought possibly suspect but the clock doesn't lie and until the theory is disproven, I'll put the winners at least on a high rating.Mon, 07 Jun 2021 09:15:43 -0500With you Figgis on your opinion of Adayar as he ran to a top form figure backed up on the clock and with a strong finishing sectional so I can rate him higher than the RPR of 123. How does 129 grab you?That said, in a match with Snowfall at 12f I wouhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31682827/the-oaks?post_id=561031429#561031429With you Figgis on your opinion of Adayar as he ran to a top form figure backed up on the clock and with a strong finishing sectional so I can rate him higher than the RPR of 123. How does 129 grab you?That said, in a match with Snowfall at 12f I wouMon, 07 Jun 2021 09:12:16 -0500For the briefest of brief moments I hoped that the runner up was going to match the winner, when the commentator over-stated the strength of his run - I had slipped a spare fiver on very am that day at 150.0, so ridiculous was the price on offer - buhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31682827/the-oaks?post_id=561031395#561031395For the briefest of brief moments I hoped that the runner up was going to match the winner, when the commentator over-stated the strength of his run - I had slipped a spare fiver on very am that day at 150.0, so ridiculous was the price on offer - buMon, 07 Jun 2021 08:59:36 -0500A_T, well I take the opposite view with him (compared to the Oaks winner), he's a class act. I'll stick with Derby performances this century, so as not to get embroiled in pointless debates about horses from other eras. I have him up with the four prhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31682827/the-oaks?post_id=561030625#561030625A_T, well I take the opposite view with him (compared to the Oaks winner), he's a class act. I'll stick with Derby performances this century, so as not to get embroiled in pointless debates about horses from other eras. I have him up with the four prMon, 07 Jun 2021 05:30:11 -0500