New Posts For Thread: Epsom Derby 2021https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31668273/epsom-derby-2021Thought it might be worth be having a few quid each way on High Definition for the Derby before he runs in the Beresford Stakes at the Curragh this afternoon - general odds of 25/1 available currently but would expect to shorten significantly shouldpmsl didnt avail myself of the prices at the time, those prices would be looking very good right now, still a long way offhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31668273/epsom-derby-2021?post_id=561245403#561245403pmsl didnt avail myself of the prices at the time, those prices would be looking very good right now, still a long way offSun, 25 Jul 2021 10:20:41 -0500Sandown, I had Galileo down as a likely Derby winner straight from his debut performance. I backed him ante post at 20/1 and 16/1 (which would be impossible these days), but unfortunately I backed him in various classic doubles with other horses, allhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31668273/epsom-derby-2021?post_id=561065539#561065539Sandown, I had Galileo down as a likely Derby winner straight from his debut performance. I backed him ante post at 20/1 and 16/1 (which would be impossible these days), but unfortunately I backed him in various classic doubles with other horses, allMon, 14 Jun 2021 13:16:22 -0500Figgis. I've been contemplating your remark that "only an accurate time rating is proof (of an ability to run to a mark". I can't deny that a good time rating backs up i.e. proves, a rating. I've said the same thing on this thread. Yet, that isn't alhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31668273/epsom-derby-2021?post_id=561064703#561064703Figgis. I've been contemplating your remark that "only an accurate time rating is proof (of an ability to run to a mark". I can't deny that a good time rating backs up i.e. proves, a rating. I've said the same thing on this thread. Yet, that isn't alMon, 14 Jun 2021 11:55:39 -0500What a great thread,excellent contributions from many,thoroughly enjoyable read.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31668273/epsom-derby-2021?post_id=561062355#561062355What a great thread,excellent contributions from many,thoroughly enjoyable read.Mon, 14 Jun 2021 07:26:12 -0500Soba and Habibti? Caravaggio?https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31668273/epsom-derby-2021?post_id=561058753#561058753Soba and Habibti? Caravaggio?Sun, 13 Jun 2021 12:59:16 -0500Sandown, I had some decent figures for ROG as a 2yo and a 3yo. Although I can say that ROG as a 3yo never even reached the heights that HW did as a 2yo. And that is even based on figures not skewed with WFA additions. The problem, for me, with Hawk Whttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31668273/epsom-derby-2021?post_id=561056145#561056145Sandown, I had some decent figures for ROG as a 2yo and a 3yo. Although I can say that ROG as a 3yo never even reached the heights that HW did as a 2yo. And that is even based on figures not skewed with WFA additions. The problem, for me, with Hawk WSun, 13 Jun 2021 07:20:18 -0500https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/features/previews/aidan-obrien-greatest-racehorses-2932020Sandown, but let's say a horse is rated 140 on collateral form but not on time ratings. What use is that in reality? As until it actually proves it on thehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31668273/epsom-derby-2021?post_id=561055525#561055525https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/features/previews/aidan-obrien-greatest-racehorses-2932020Sandown, but let's say a horse is rated 140 on collateral form but not on time ratings. What use is that in reality? As until it actually proves it on theSun, 13 Jun 2021 05:22:19 -0500Sandown, an example I would give is Battaash. No question that he's a seriously good sprinter and it's great to have a top speedster doing it season after season as he has. But he was beaten twice at Ascot fair and square by Blue Point. I accept thathttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31668273/epsom-derby-2021?post_id=561054633#561054633Sandown, an example I would give is Battaash. No question that he's a seriously good sprinter and it's great to have a top speedster doing it season after season as he has. But he was beaten twice at Ascot fair and square by Blue Point. I accept thatSat, 12 Jun 2021 16:44:18 -0500Sandown, but let's say a horse is rated 140 on collateral form but not on time ratings. What use is that in reality? As until it actually proves it on the clock we don't know if it can run to that mark. Only an accurate time rating is proof.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31668273/epsom-derby-2021?post_id=561054577#561054577Sandown, but let's say a horse is rated 140 on collateral form but not on time ratings. What use is that in reality? As until it actually proves it on the clock we don't know if it can run to that mark. Only an accurate time rating is proof.Sat, 12 Jun 2021 16:29:48 -0500Also collateral form ratings can confuse the issue as to what is possible. Horses can be given high form ratings without necessarily having to run fast. Whereas, on the whole, I find most horses can only run a peak speed figure twice, maybe three timhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31668273/epsom-derby-2021?post_id=561054515#561054515Also collateral form ratings can confuse the issue as to what is possible. Horses can be given high form ratings without necessarily having to run fast. Whereas, on the whole, I find most horses can only run a peak speed figure twice, maybe three timSat, 12 Jun 2021 16:18:12 -0500