New Posts For Thread: Prix Jacques le Marois (Group 1)https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31661767/prix-jacques-le-marois-group-1Looks like a good race and a close one according to the Official Ratings. They have Palace Pier and Circus Maximus on 120, Romanised on 118 and Persian King and Alpine Star on 117. Does that mean they expect Palace Pier and Circus Maximus to dead heaFiggis you said The Gurka was top rated, I never even thought about it. Give it a rest. I think it's a mess but that is probably just me. I'm sure everyone else knows exactly what is going on. You could be right S. THe ground certainly looked testinghttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31661767/prix-jacques-le-marois-group-1?post_id=559722539#559722539Figgis you said The Gurka was top rated, I never even thought about it. Give it a rest. I think it's a mess but that is probably just me. I'm sure everyone else knows exactly what is going on. You could be right S. THe ground certainly looked testingTue, 18 Aug 2020 10:39:25 -0500There was a mile handicap on the card and using that for comparative purposes, I would say that PP did not run to the same level (on MY assessment) that he ran to at Ascot. Nevertheless, he was rated 3lbs higher on RPR's. Most likely that was down tohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31661767/prix-jacques-le-marois-group-1?post_id=559722307#559722307There was a mile handicap on the card and using that for comparative purposes, I would say that PP did not run to the same level (on MY assessment) that he ran to at Ascot. Nevertheless, he was rated 3lbs higher on RPR's. Most likely that was down toTue, 18 Aug 2020 09:21:44 -0500Right, so the Gurkha was somewhere on your list as a potential 3yo Gp1 winner at the start of the season was he? Proclamation? Distant View? Zilzal? Soviet Star? I say bollockshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31661767/prix-jacques-le-marois-group-1?post_id=559722247#559722247Right, so the Gurkha was somewhere on your list as a potential 3yo Gp1 winner at the start of the season was he? Proclamation? Distant View? Zilzal? Soviet Star? I say bollocksTue, 18 Aug 2020 09:02:53 -0500WE are not talking about horses on top of the list we are talking about horses not even on the flying list! Not short memories, no memories.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31661767/prix-jacques-le-marois-group-1?post_id=559722203#559722203WE are not talking about horses on top of the list we are talking about horses not even on the flying list! Not short memories, no memories.Tue, 18 Aug 2020 08:55:05 -0500Some people must have very short memories then. It's hardly unusual for the top rated 2yo to disappoint the following season. The Gurkha, Toronado, Proclamation, Distant View, etc, weren't exactly at the top of most people's lists either.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31661767/prix-jacques-le-marois-group-1?post_id=559722173#559722173Some people must have very short memories then. It's hardly unusual for the top rated 2yo to disappoint the following season. The Gurkha, Toronado, Proclamation, Distant View, etc, weren't exactly at the top of most people's lists either.Tue, 18 Aug 2020 08:52:03 -0500That's correct, not the slur about the punter but I'll ignore that. Here we are 10 weeks in and potentially the best 3 year old milers/10 furlong horses wouldn't have been high on anyone's list at the beginning of the season and the best older milerhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31661767/prix-jacques-le-marois-group-1?post_id=559722101#559722101That's correct, not the slur about the punter but I'll ignore that. Here we are 10 weeks in and potentially the best 3 year old milers/10 furlong horses wouldn't have been high on anyone's list at the beginning of the season and the best older milerTue, 18 Aug 2020 08:42:14 -0500I think anyone who is moaning what a mess it is that only 10 weeks into a season we don't have a firmly established pecking order that everyone is in agreement on is a funny kind of punterhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31661767/prix-jacques-le-marois-group-1?post_id=559721949#559721949I think anyone who is moaning what a mess it is that only 10 weeks into a season we don't have a firmly established pecking order that everyone is in agreement on is a funny kind of punterTue, 18 Aug 2020 08:06:01 -0500Terrible examples, terrible. I really haven't the time thanks. If you miss the point, there you are!https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31661767/prix-jacques-le-marois-group-1?post_id=559721905#559721905Terrible examples, terrible. I really haven't the time thanks. If you miss the point, there you are!Tue, 18 Aug 2020 07:57:09 -0500it is no coincidence you back 40 years for a good exampleI went back 40 years because that is still the fastest Derby winner I've seen, and an example that even the best can leave moderate form behind. There are countless other good horses who have ihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31661767/prix-jacques-le-marois-group-1?post_id=559721865#559721865it is no coincidence you back 40 years for a good exampleI went back 40 years because that is still the fastest Derby winner I've seen, and an example that even the best can leave moderate form behind. There are countless other good horses who have iTue, 18 Aug 2020 07:44:19 -0500I have been around horses enough to know they improve but it is no coincidence you back 40 years for a good example. Generous was a good horse who benefitted from 12f. The races he ran well in as a 2 y o were not great races and nor was the Mysiko 20https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31661767/prix-jacques-le-marois-group-1?post_id=559721797#559721797I have been around horses enough to know they improve but it is no coincidence you back 40 years for a good example. Generous was a good horse who benefitted from 12f. The races he ran well in as a 2 y o were not great races and nor was the Mysiko 20Tue, 18 Aug 2020 07:23:03 -0500