New Posts For Thread: Pinatubo (king of 2 yr olds)https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31634105/pinatubo-king-of-2-yr-oldsWill he have trained on and/or retained his superiority over his counterparts this season? I hope so. Another year of mediocrity 3 yr olds will not instil or invigorate enthusiasm in the sport so lacking after the flop of Enable in The Arc, and retirRetired to stud. (Lucky Boy).https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31634105/pinatubo-king-of-2-yr-olds?post_id=559976777#559976777Retired to stud. (Lucky Boy).Fri, 09 Oct 2020 10:42:35 -0500A wind-up merchant is like a leopard ie it never changes its spots. It's idiotic to run him in another competitive Gp1 race over 8f; will be eaten for breakfast in the QE2 at Ascot if he turns up (foolishly).https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31634105/pinatubo-king-of-2-yr-olds?post_id=559835141#559835141A wind-up merchant is like a leopard ie it never changes its spots. It's idiotic to run him in another competitive Gp1 race over 8f; will be eaten for breakfast in the QE2 at Ascot if he turns up (foolishly).Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:47:50 -0500you think will win based on time aloneAnother idiotic comment on times from the man that 'doesn't do times'. If you did you would know that time analysis is inextricably linked with form. Otherwise how could going allowances be worked out and how couhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31634105/pinatubo-king-of-2-yr-olds?post_id=559835109#559835109you think will win based on time aloneAnother idiotic comment on times from the man that 'doesn't do times'. If you did you would know that time analysis is inextricably linked with form. Otherwise how could going allowances be worked out and how couFri, 11 Sep 2020 09:41:40 -0500Still didn't match it over a mileI know people like to talk about race form as though it is otherwise, but the simple fact is racehorses do not always run to the pound in ever race. Many horses don't quite find their very best form until later in thehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31634105/pinatubo-king-of-2-yr-olds?post_id=559835079#559835079Still didn't match it over a mileI know people like to talk about race form as though it is otherwise, but the simple fact is racehorses do not always run to the pound in ever race. Many horses don't quite find their very best form until later in theFri, 11 Sep 2020 09:36:23 -0500Anyway much as I love having these little tete a tete's with you Figgis but I have work to do. Meet you back here when you can find that horse you think will win based on time alone. Not form, just time. Take your time. There is no rush.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31634105/pinatubo-king-of-2-yr-olds?post_id=559835043#559835043Anyway much as I love having these little tete a tete's with you Figgis but I have work to do. Meet you back here when you can find that horse you think will win based on time alone. Not form, just time. Take your time. There is no rush.Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:31:26 -0500Well OK a not tiring 4.75 lengths. How's that! Still didn't match it over a mile.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31634105/pinatubo-king-of-2-yr-olds?post_id=559835017#559835017Well OK a not tiring 4.75 lengths. How's that! Still didn't match it over a mile.Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:27:15 -0500There's also the not insignificant, but conveniently ignored, matter of the Dewhurst having been run on soft ground.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31634105/pinatubo-king-of-2-yr-olds?post_id=559835011#559835011There's also the not insignificant, but conveniently ignored, matter of the Dewhurst having been run on soft ground.Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:27:04 -0500a tiring 4.75 lengths over 7 furlongs in the Dewhursthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1mGAeD62M4Yep, he was so tired he was never further in the lead than at the winning post. There are opinions and then there is bullshithttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31634105/pinatubo-king-of-2-yr-olds?post_id=559834999#559834999a tiring 4.75 lengths over 7 furlongs in the Dewhursthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1mGAeD62M4Yep, he was so tired he was never further in the lead than at the winning post. There are opinions and then there is bullshitFri, 11 Sep 2020 09:25:14 -0500Even the most stubborn idiot will see that Pinatubo beat Wichita ridden by Moore by a tiring 4.75 lengths over 7 furlongs in the Dewhurst. In the 2000 Guineas over a mile Wichita beat Pinatubo by a length.In the St James Palace Stakes, slowly run, ovhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31634105/pinatubo-king-of-2-yr-olds?post_id=559834911#559834911Even the most stubborn idiot will see that Pinatubo beat Wichita ridden by Moore by a tiring 4.75 lengths over 7 furlongs in the Dewhurst. In the 2000 Guineas over a mile Wichita beat Pinatubo by a length.In the St James Palace Stakes, slowly run, ovFri, 11 Sep 2020 09:14:21 -0500Pinatubo is bred to stay 10 furlongs, I don't buy the argument that he doesn't truly stay a mile. I think he is just as good over a mile or 7 furlongs, he's just not as good as his fans hoped he would be. He was never very impressive as a physical sphttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31634105/pinatubo-king-of-2-yr-olds?post_id=559834883#559834883Pinatubo is bred to stay 10 furlongs, I don't buy the argument that he doesn't truly stay a mile. I think he is just as good over a mile or 7 furlongs, he's just not as good as his fans hoped he would be. He was never very impressive as a physical spFri, 11 Sep 2020 09:09:11 -0500