New Posts For Thread: 2020 prix de,l,arc de triomphhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31588053/2020-prix-delarc-de-triomphlooking forward to next years race, ok we havent a clue to the three year old yet, but sottsass is a horse that must be in the reckoning, coolmore imo will keep japan in training , and todays winner must enter calculations if running, enable surelykincem bad luck in backing in swoop and not sottsass ,always the way the one you dont do will always bite you on the ar$e , a few weeks ago i put a ante post each way double in a william hillss shop and used one of those bet machines for the 1st timehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31588053/2020-prix-delarc-de-triomph?post_id=559962009#559962009kincem bad luck in backing in swoop and not sottsass ,always the way the one you dont do will always bite you on the ar$e , a few weeks ago i put a ante post each way double in a william hillss shop and used one of those bet machines for the 1st timeTue, 06 Oct 2020 10:16:00 -0500I meant Arcs just from 2015 onward, as you had said the first review was only up to 2015.In 5 out of 7 cases they were beaten by horses who were repeating their 3yo win as a 4yo, or were beaten by horses who had been beaten as 3yo but were now winninhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31588053/2020-prix-delarc-de-triomph?post_id=559962003#559962003I meant Arcs just from 2015 onward, as you had said the first review was only up to 2015.In 5 out of 7 cases they were beaten by horses who were repeating their 3yo win as a 4yo, or were beaten by horses who had been beaten as 3yo but were now winninTue, 06 Oct 2020 10:14:47 -0500FiggisThat's kind of ignoring all the ones who tried again and failed though, such as Magical, Way To Paris, Order Of St George, Capri, Cloth Of Stars, New Bay, Dolniya just from 2015. I think just like most stats, poor criteria compared to form goinhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31588053/2020-prix-delarc-de-triomph?post_id=559961753#559961753FiggisThat's kind of ignoring all the ones who tried again and failed though, such as Magical, Way To Paris, Order Of St George, Capri, Cloth Of Stars, New Bay, Dolniya just from 2015. I think just like most stats, poor criteria compared to form goinTue, 06 Oct 2020 09:42:39 -0500This was one of my posts on boards.ie.I keep an Excel file of the draw in the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe at Longchamp, all finishers from 1971 to 2019 (47 years, 1982 missing).On fast ground a low draw is favoured. On soft/heavy the draw is less imporhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31588053/2020-prix-delarc-de-triomph?post_id=559961139#559961139This was one of my posts on boards.ie.I keep an Excel file of the draw in the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe at Longchamp, all finishers from 1971 to 2019 (47 years, 1982 missing).On fast ground a low draw is favoured. On soft/heavy the draw is less imporTue, 06 Oct 2020 08:27:22 -0500Just to cheer everyone up.I put my predictions on boards.ie, 1st place down to last place.My prediction 1st Sottsass, 2nd In Swoop.And I did the obvious - Euro 200 on In Swoop at 12s+https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31588053/2020-prix-delarc-de-triomph?post_id=559961047#559961047Just to cheer everyone up.I put my predictions on boards.ie, 1st place down to last place.My prediction 1st Sottsass, 2nd In Swoop.And I did the obvious - Euro 200 on In Swoop at 12s+Tue, 06 Oct 2020 08:10:21 -0500That's kind of ignoring all the ones who tried again and failed though, such as Magical, Way To Paris, Order Of St George, Capri, Cloth Of Stars, New Bay, Dolniya just from 2015. I think just like most stats, poor criteria compared to form going intohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31588053/2020-prix-delarc-de-triomph?post_id=559960473#559960473That's kind of ignoring all the ones who tried again and failed though, such as Magical, Way To Paris, Order Of St George, Capri, Cloth Of Stars, New Bay, Dolniya just from 2015. I think just like most stats, poor criteria compared to form going intoTue, 06 Oct 2020 06:52:03 -0500as said the irish champion stakes was a serious run form sottsas less than 3l behind magical and ghayiaath ,2 top class horses at that trip ,also last year in the arc sottsass came there at the furlong pole and to some (me among them) thought he dihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31588053/2020-prix-delarc-de-triomph?post_id=559960393#559960393as said the irish champion stakes was a serious run form sottsas less than 3l behind magical and ghayiaath ,2 top class horses at that trip ,also last year in the arc sottsass came there at the furlong pole and to some (me among them) thought he diTue, 06 Oct 2020 06:38:25 -0500I think that is 16 horses beaten in the Arc who later won itor just about every horses that ran in it again Seriously impressive stats kincem. Thank you for digging those out. I would have given Sottsass a better chance than I did if I had known. Thohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31588053/2020-prix-delarc-de-triomph?post_id=559960183#559960183I think that is 16 horses beaten in the Arc who later won itor just about every horses that ran in it again Seriously impressive stats kincem. Thank you for digging those out. I would have given Sottsass a better chance than I did if I had known. ThoTue, 06 Oct 2020 05:50:52 -0500That was only a review up to 2015You can add theseFound 9th, 1stWaldgeist 4th, 1stSottsass 3rd, 1stI think that is 16 horses beaten in the Arc who later won itor just about every horses that ran in it again Stats quoted (invented) by people who do nohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31588053/2020-prix-delarc-de-triomph?post_id=559959977#559959977That was only a review up to 2015You can add theseFound 9th, 1stWaldgeist 4th, 1stSottsass 3rd, 1stI think that is 16 horses beaten in the Arc who later won itor just about every horses that ran in it again Stats quoted (invented) by people who do noTue, 06 Oct 2020 05:00:42 -0500sykes10well done sottsass backers,how many horses have come back and won after they were beaten in the race the previous year?Plenty... 12, and I may have missed a fewCorrida was 3rd, then 1st, 1st.Motrico was 4th, then 1st, 1st.Massine was 2nd, 1stDhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31588053/2020-prix-delarc-de-triomph?post_id=559959929#559959929sykes10well done sottsass backers,how many horses have come back and won after they were beaten in the race the previous year?Plenty... 12, and I may have missed a fewCorrida was 3rd, then 1st, 1st.Motrico was 4th, then 1st, 1st.Massine was 2nd, 1stDTue, 06 Oct 2020 04:47:09 -0500