New Posts For Thread: prix de l,arc de triomphehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31534227/prix-de-larc-de-triomphei was very impressed by sottsass in the french derby, seems to go on any ground, running on strongly over the 10 furlongs, but imo not guaranteed to stay the arc trip on breeding especially in a strongly run race, but with enable , sea of class notI keep an Excel spreadsheet of the Arc draw (Longchamp).The 2019 time was 30th of the 47 years (1971-2019) i.e. a bit slow but nothing too extreme.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31534227/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe?post_id=558139755#558139755I keep an Excel spreadsheet of the Arc draw (Longchamp).The 2019 time was 30th of the 47 years (1971-2019) i.e. a bit slow but nothing too extreme.Tue, 15 Oct 2019 05:31:16 -0500The fresh ground for Arc day is for a degree or so faster than the Saturday and this year was no exception. On race times, I have to make the going as good to soft, at worse. "Very soft" was "very misleading." The final time was a good 7/8/9 secondshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31534227/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe?post_id=558098047#558098047The fresh ground for Arc day is for a degree or so faster than the Saturday and this year was no exception. On race times, I have to make the going as good to soft, at worse. "Very soft" was "very misleading." The final time was a good 7/8/9 secondsTue, 08 Oct 2019 06:18:23 -0500Brigust, yes the straight at Ascot generally does ride quicker than the round part of the track. However on watching both races again it didn't appear to me that the Longchamp straight was noticeably slower than for the 2017 King George. It was softhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31534227/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe?post_id=558097497#558097497Brigust, yes the straight at Ascot generally does ride quicker than the round part of the track. However on watching both races again it didn't appear to me that the Longchamp straight was noticeably slower than for the 2017 King George. It was softTue, 08 Oct 2019 04:22:11 -0500Work on the Straight Mile commenced in September 2004, once the course had been officially closed. This involved the redevelopment of the Home and Paddock bends to merge into the original Round Course, and making improvements to their camber. A threehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31534227/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe?post_id=558094871#558094871Work on the Straight Mile commenced in September 2004, once the course had been officially closed. This involved the redevelopment of the Home and Paddock bends to merge into the original Round Course, and making improvements to their camber. A threeMon, 07 Oct 2019 13:51:08 -0500Figgis the difference between Ascot and Longchamp is the home straight. When Ascot announces soft ground that doesn't refer to the home straight. It has been laid specifically to drain easily and quickly and the ground is never as soft as everywherehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31534227/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe?post_id=558094823#558094823Figgis the difference between Ascot and Longchamp is the home straight. When Ascot announces soft ground that doesn't refer to the home straight. It has been laid specifically to drain easily and quickly and the ground is never as soft as everywhereMon, 07 Oct 2019 13:44:49 -0500you can find the sectionals for the race on france galop, think you see aiden o'breins tactics a lot in the derby, how they try and distort the pace of races,no doubt in my mind they used magical for this purpose in the arc, the way that horse fadedhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31534227/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe?post_id=558092289#558092289you can find the sectionals for the race on france galop, think you see aiden o'breins tactics a lot in the derby, how they try and distort the pace of races,no doubt in my mind they used magical for this purpose in the arc, the way that horse fadedMon, 07 Oct 2019 06:10:36 -0500On reflection I've changed my early take on the result. I agree with A_T that those racing very prominently early on did a bit too much but I don't think that was true of Dettori's ride. Enable beat Japan by almost the exact distance I would've expechttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31534227/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe?post_id=558092135#558092135On reflection I've changed my early take on the result. I agree with A_T that those racing very prominently early on did a bit too much but I don't think that was true of Dettori's ride. Enable beat Japan by almost the exact distance I would've expecMon, 07 Oct 2019 05:06:09 -0500yes good call, looking back what a cracking e/w bet he washttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31534227/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe?post_id=558092101#558092101yes good call, looking back what a cracking e/w bet he wasMon, 07 Oct 2019 04:55:02 -0500Thanks Charlton - you're not too shabby yourself.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31534227/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe?post_id=558091799#558091799Thanks Charlton - you're not too shabby yourself.Mon, 07 Oct 2019 01:20:27 -0500wd Uncle. you do find a lot of winners!https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31534227/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe?post_id=558090575#558090575wd Uncle. you do find a lot of winners!Sun, 06 Oct 2019 15:59:40 -0500