New Posts For Thread: Champion Stakes (Ascot 20th Oct)https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31457081/champion-stakes-ascot-20th-octThe two main protagonists are Cracksman and Roaring Lion both trained by Gosden. Gosden: "Cracksman and possibly Roaring Lion could go for the Champion Stakes, while the latter has the option of the QEII, where we could run Without Parole.No worries Andrew In Sweden, Mine likewisehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31457081/champion-stakes-ascot-20th-oct?post_id=555807713#555807713No worries Andrew In Sweden, Mine likewiseSun, 21 Oct 2018 16:38:43 -0500Metro John,My rating figures above for Cracksman are only 'tongue in cheek'https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31457081/champion-stakes-ascot-20th-oct?post_id=555807603#555807603Metro John,My rating figures above for Cracksman are only 'tongue in cheek'Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:26:06 -0500Like I said, cracksman did as t says on the tin, but crystal maths ran exactly to his hardwicke form. People seem to think he is a Harbinger or Pilsudski horse..he is not. Just a bottom end group 1 horse.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31457081/champion-stakes-ascot-20th-oct?post_id=555807577#555807577Like I said, cracksman did as t says on the tin, but crystal maths ran exactly to his hardwicke form. People seem to think he is a Harbinger or Pilsudski horse..he is not. Just a bottom end group 1 horse.Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:22:33 -0500One should not hold the race back for Subway Dancer since that horse was gelded in the summer and had the Champion in mind . A very good performance from Cracksman and I think DGH might up him 2 on last year's Champion rating .https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31457081/champion-stakes-ascot-20th-oct?post_id=555807495#555807495One should not hold the race back for Subway Dancer since that horse was gelded in the summer and had the Champion in mind . A very good performance from Cracksman and I think DGH might up him 2 on last year's Champion rating .Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:15:37 -0500Hi Brigust, hope you are in good health Sir!your input is noted, and yes it is easy enough to crab the Champion Stakes, but the rating on the ground is ok, Like I say I feel the race was on the 130 range, take 5lb off all my ratings and it just lookshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31457081/champion-stakes-ascot-20th-oct?post_id=555807261#555807261Hi Brigust, hope you are in good health Sir!your input is noted, and yes it is easy enough to crab the Champion Stakes, but the rating on the ground is ok, Like I say I feel the race was on the 130 range, take 5lb off all my ratings and it just looksSun, 21 Oct 2018 15:51:19 -0500Brig you were dead right in your judgement and very unlucky in the Derby a truly superior oss. Hope you are keeping very well. I had a jolly good day yesterday backed the third each way as well.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31457081/champion-stakes-ascot-20th-oct?post_id=555805743#555805743Brig you were dead right in your judgement and very unlucky in the Derby a truly superior oss. Hope you are keeping very well. I had a jolly good day yesterday backed the third each way as well.Sun, 21 Oct 2018 12:44:03 -0500No they were not all great prices but I made a tidy profit from him boosted by his last win. I wish all were the same.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31457081/champion-stakes-ascot-20th-oct?post_id=555804837#555804837No they were not all great prices but I made a tidy profit from him boosted by his last win. I wish all were the same.Sun, 21 Oct 2018 11:23:56 -0500Well this year Cracksman was 3/5 for the Ganay, wouldn't have been much ante post action on that. 2/7 for the Coronation Cup, doubt he was ever a great deal bigger on the market for that race. Beaten at odds of 2/5 in the POW. Then a non runner in thhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31457081/champion-stakes-ascot-20th-oct?post_id=555804467#555804467Well this year Cracksman was 3/5 for the Ganay, wouldn't have been much ante post action on that. 2/7 for the Coronation Cup, doubt he was ever a great deal bigger on the market for that race. Beaten at odds of 2/5 in the POW. Then a non runner in thSun, 21 Oct 2018 10:49:47 -0500Plus when I backed him for both Arcs I had Enable running for me in both races as a profitable saver.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31457081/champion-stakes-ascot-20th-oct?post_id=555804359#555804359Plus when I backed him for both Arcs I had Enable running for me in both races as a profitable saver.Sun, 21 Oct 2018 10:43:09 -0500You have to know your horses Figgis. Three wins and a 2nd this year, 4 wins a 2nd and a 3rd last year and a single win from 1 run as a two year old. I made a nice bit out of Cracksman thank you very much but that doesn't conceal the facts.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/31457081/champion-stakes-ascot-20th-oct?post_id=555804325#555804325You have to know your horses Figgis. Three wins and a 2nd this year, 4 wins a 2nd and a 3rd last year and a single win from 1 run as a two year old. I made a nice bit out of Cracksman thank you very much but that doesn't conceal the facts.Sun, 21 Oct 2018 10:41:34 -0500