New Posts For Thread: Qatar Lennox Stakes (Group 2)https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30911577/qatar-lennox-stakes-group-2If Limato runs to his best then he wins. Afterwards the price would look a gift for a Gp1 horse running against Gp2/Gp3 opposition. Going into the race, however, Limato still hasn't shown he's as good as he was last year. It's difficult to know how cTwonky, I mean time wise, hence there only being 1.5 lengths between first and seventh. I don't believe Breton Rock had to run much better than he had in previous races to win, as even though it was a stronger race in theory the main opposition didn'https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30911577/qatar-lennox-stakes-group-2?post_id=552487195#552487195Twonky, I mean time wise, hence there only being 1.5 lengths between first and seventh. I don't believe Breton Rock had to run much better than he had in previous races to win, as even though it was a stronger race in theory the main opposition didn'Wed, 02 Aug 2017 16:45:38 -0500Figgis, you mentioned higher class of race but didn't live up to it... Are you talking time wise and sectionals or how the race was run?Looks like al the winners this week have come from off the pace, which, imo is surprising if the ground has been ahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30911577/qatar-lennox-stakes-group-2?post_id=552487051#552487051Figgis, you mentioned higher class of race but didn't live up to it... Are you talking time wise and sectionals or how the race was run?Looks like al the winners this week have come from off the pace, which, imo is surprising if the ground has been aWed, 02 Aug 2017 16:24:14 -0500Sorry looking uphttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30911577/qatar-lennox-stakes-group-2?post_id=552486519#552486519Sorry looking upWed, 02 Aug 2017 15:09:59 -0500Without he King up and could very well be wrong, he was given a soft lead in the foret and tight turns in America may ave helped him to stayhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30911577/qatar-lennox-stakes-group-2?post_id=552486513#552486513Without he King up and could very well be wrong, he was given a soft lead in the foret and tight turns in America may ave helped him to stayWed, 02 Aug 2017 15:09:35 -0500H Candy reckoned he'd have run Limato too soon after the July Cup (15th July). Does the man ever learn? I thought he said something similar last season. Also, the ground was on the soft side on good, according to Atzeni, the rider of the winner Stradhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30911577/qatar-lennox-stakes-group-2?post_id=552483519#552483519H Candy reckoned he'd have run Limato too soon after the July Cup (15th July). Does the man ever learn? I thought he said something similar last season. Also, the ground was on the soft side on good, according to Atzeni, the rider of the winner StradWed, 02 Aug 2017 08:47:32 -0500Twonky, I think that can happen sometimes for various reasons. There are cases like the O'Brien yard, for instance, where the horses aren't always spot on fitness wise for the lower class races or aren't going to be ridden as vigorously as they wouldhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30911577/qatar-lennox-stakes-group-2?post_id=552482967#552482967Twonky, I think that can happen sometimes for various reasons. There are cases like the O'Brien yard, for instance, where the horses aren't always spot on fitness wise for the lower class races or aren't going to be ridden as vigorously as they wouldWed, 02 Aug 2017 07:18:33 -0500To be fair to Limato, considering it was his 3rd run in 5 weeks, he ran very well, just failing in the last half furlong..don't think his trainers/ owners idea to run him was the smartest move considering a trip to France was his next intended call.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30911577/qatar-lennox-stakes-group-2?post_id=552481905#552481905To be fair to Limato, considering it was his 3rd run in 5 weeks, he ran very well, just failing in the last half furlong..don't think his trainers/ owners idea to run him was the smartest move considering a trip to France was his next intended call.Wed, 02 Aug 2017 01:48:47 -0500We're going to have to disagree on the time, Figgis. I make it 3 lbs slower than Kingman did on debut, for example, so not exceptional for a 2nd timer, but likely to be very near the top of the pecking order. For me it's all about how he progresses.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30911577/qatar-lennox-stakes-group-2?post_id=552478357#552478357We're going to have to disagree on the time, Figgis. I make it 3 lbs slower than Kingman did on debut, for example, so not exceptional for a 2nd timer, but likely to be very near the top of the pecking order. For me it's all about how he progresses.Tue, 01 Aug 2017 13:33:53 -0500I'll try that again, the .35 sec Expert Eye ran slower than Breton Rock, carrying 2lbs less.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30911577/qatar-lennox-stakes-group-2?post_id=552478249#552478249I'll try that again, the .35 sec Expert Eye ran slower than Breton Rock, carrying 2lbs less.Tue, 01 Aug 2017 13:25:34 -0500Howellsy, it's difficult to believe Breton Rock improved today so I've rated him close to his best but I'd expect a Gp1 2yo to run a bit quicker than the .35 sec Expert Eye ran faster than Breton Rock, even allowing for the 4lbs wfa expects him to imhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30911577/qatar-lennox-stakes-group-2?post_id=552478191#552478191Howellsy, it's difficult to believe Breton Rock improved today so I've rated him close to his best but I'd expect a Gp1 2yo to run a bit quicker than the .35 sec Expert Eye ran faster than Breton Rock, even allowing for the 4lbs wfa expects him to imTue, 01 Aug 2017 13:18:13 -0500