New Posts For Thread: Prince of Wales Royal Ascothttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30886221/prince-of-wales-royal-ascotJust had a look at this race to see if any value, and their looks to be no standout candidate and surely the value sits with HAWKBILL at 12/1 with lads??? Ran his last 2 races at 1 Mile 4 he looked like he didn't stay at Epsom against the very best aI don't think people should forget that highland reel was passed out by both Ulysses and Decorated knight coming to the furlong pole, but Highland reel is just so tough and game, that he just went threw the pain barrier, i taught it was a brilliant phttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30886221/prince-of-wales-royal-ascot?post_id=552198743#552198743I don't think people should forget that highland reel was passed out by both Ulysses and Decorated knight coming to the furlong pole, but Highland reel is just so tough and game, that he just went threw the pain barrier, i taught it was a brilliant pWed, 21 Jun 2017 18:23:08 -0500It's not unusual for horses who have run on fast ground not to let themselves down on it next time or anytime in the future. The memory is there. And autumn good to firm isn't June good to firm. We are all guessing. He may have just not fancied it. Thttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30886221/prince-of-wales-royal-ascot?post_id=552198587#552198587It's not unusual for horses who have run on fast ground not to let themselves down on it next time or anytime in the future. The memory is there. And autumn good to firm isn't June good to firm. We are all guessing. He may have just not fancied it. TWed, 21 Jun 2017 17:41:36 -0500The ground was fast when Jack Hobbs finished second in the Derby. Some will probably say that he doesn't act on it anymore since his injury but it was also good to firm when he finished third over 10f in last year's Champion Stakes which was a betterhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30886221/prince-of-wales-royal-ascot?post_id=552198483#552198483The ground was fast when Jack Hobbs finished second in the Derby. Some will probably say that he doesn't act on it anymore since his injury but it was also good to firm when he finished third over 10f in last year's Champion Stakes which was a betterWed, 21 Jun 2017 17:06:24 -0500Of the poor show by Jack Hobbs who finished last.Gosden: "Obviously, that trip on that ground is not his scene. A mile and a quarter here in the autumn on soft, no problem - but this just isn't his ground. He didn't let himself down on it. He came thhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30886221/prince-of-wales-royal-ascot?post_id=552198355#552198355Of the poor show by Jack Hobbs who finished last.Gosden: "Obviously, that trip on that ground is not his scene. A mile and a quarter here in the autumn on soft, no problem - but this just isn't his ground. He didn't let himself down on it. He came thWed, 21 Jun 2017 16:42:43 -0500Figgis, I don't contribute much to the forum, but I read a lot..some I agree with, some I don't, though, I do know that the wfa debate is something that you harp on a lot about and on the whole, I'd generally agree with. Unfortunately, imo, we've nothttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30886221/prince-of-wales-royal-ascot?post_id=552198137#552198137Figgis, I don't contribute much to the forum, but I read a lot..some I agree with, some I don't, though, I do know that the wfa debate is something that you harp on a lot about and on the whole, I'd generally agree with. Unfortunately, imo, we've notWed, 21 Jun 2017 16:07:05 -0500In my view twonky the problem arises due to wfa. I believe Jack Hobbs was a good 3yo but he would need to improve in line with the wfa he received a couple of years ago to also be a good older horse. None of his runs as a 4yo or 5yo suggest he's proghttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30886221/prince-of-wales-royal-ascot?post_id=552198019#552198019In my view twonky the problem arises due to wfa. I believe Jack Hobbs was a good 3yo but he would need to improve in line with the wfa he received a couple of years ago to also be a good older horse. None of his runs as a 4yo or 5yo suggest he's progWed, 21 Jun 2017 15:50:13 -0500Personally, I don't get this love in with Jack Hobbs..it seems to me that sheikh mo decided he'd run today and not Saturday, again for breeding purposes and still trying to replace Dubai Millenium..the horse was injured at half last year, so maybe hehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30886221/prince-of-wales-royal-ascot?post_id=552197993#552197993Personally, I don't get this love in with Jack Hobbs..it seems to me that sheikh mo decided he'd run today and not Saturday, again for breeding purposes and still trying to replace Dubai Millenium..the horse was injured at half last year, so maybe heWed, 21 Jun 2017 15:44:47 -0500I think JH is better than this. He pulled hard during the race and was always in the wrong place considering how it was run. They quickened entering the home straight and that found him out and he certainly was not persevered with. If you stop the rahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30886221/prince-of-wales-royal-ascot?post_id=552197877#552197877I think JH is better than this. He pulled hard during the race and was always in the wrong place considering how it was run. They quickened entering the home straight and that found him out and he certainly was not persevered with. If you stop the raWed, 21 Jun 2017 15:29:39 -0500Personally thought Decorated Knight was given a poor ride around the outside the whole way, but fair play to him staying on...superb ride by Moore, always well placed and stamina kicked in, but he must be avoided if going for either the eclipse or KGhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30886221/prince-of-wales-royal-ascot?post_id=552197867#552197867Personally thought Decorated Knight was given a poor ride around the outside the whole way, but fair play to him staying on...superb ride by Moore, always well placed and stamina kicked in, but he must be avoided if going for either the eclipse or KGWed, 21 Jun 2017 15:27:14 -0500I know this might be construed as aftertiming. I backed Highland Reel for the King George prior to this race, why?I was so incensed by Mr Gosden's decision to run Jack Hobbs here because I'm beginning to treat his race nomination for his charges withhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30886221/prince-of-wales-royal-ascot?post_id=552196343#552196343I know this might be construed as aftertiming. I backed Highland Reel for the King George prior to this race, why?I was so incensed by Mr Gosden's decision to run Jack Hobbs here because I'm beginning to treat his race nomination for his charges withWed, 21 Jun 2017 12:07:41 -0500