New Posts For Thread: ~~ Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe 2016 ~~https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30690655/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe-2016I'm keeping the 3yos on side this year. Of the older brigade Duramente is the only one I'd want at this stage but is fast ground reliant. Flummoxed how Found and New Bay are so short.I thought the Japs would have a string hand this year but note thatI went through my big Arc book and learned that the 1,2 was done before by a trainer, and the 1,2 done by a stallion, and strangely the 1,2 done by a dam (everyone mentions the sire, nobody mentions the dam).How many times has a trainer entered threehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30690655/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe-2016?post_id=550133765#550133765I went through my big Arc book and learned that the 1,2 was done before by a trainer, and the 1,2 done by a stallion, and strangely the 1,2 done by a dam (everyone mentions the sire, nobody mentions the dam).How many times has a trainer entered threeMon, 10 Oct 2016 10:06:00 -0500I did a bit of searching a while back and learned that about 10 Arc winners were sold to Japan.If a colt won he would be going there imo. I'm guessing Highland Reel will go to Japan.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30690655/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe-2016?post_id=550133645#550133645I did a bit of searching a while back and learned that about 10 Arc winners were sold to Japan.If a colt won he would be going there imo. I'm guessing Highland Reel will go to Japan.Mon, 10 Oct 2016 09:31:49 -0500I think that if I was in Magnier's shoes I would be pretty pleased with the result.1. Coolmore 1-2-3 in the most prestigious middle distance turf race in the world confirming their status as the world's top breeders by a mile2. Galileo 1-2-3 ditto ashttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30690655/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe-2016?post_id=550131763#550131763I think that if I was in Magnier's shoes I would be pretty pleased with the result.1. Coolmore 1-2-3 in the most prestigious middle distance turf race in the world confirming their status as the world's top breeders by a mile2. Galileo 1-2-3 ditto asMon, 10 Oct 2016 03:49:39 -0500an Arc win might have made them attractive for an overseas buyer maybe the Japanese (with Coolmore retaining a stake, of course )https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30690655/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe-2016?post_id=550124207#550124207an Arc win might have made them attractive for an overseas buyer maybe the Japanese (with Coolmore retaining a stake, of course )Sun, 09 Oct 2016 08:41:07 -0500I understand, it was not Us Army Ranger who finished 2nd, was it? It just goes to show the depth of all round horse/breeding knowledge of some of these panel participants.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30690655/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe-2016?post_id=550123937#550123937I understand, it was not Us Army Ranger who finished 2nd, was it? It just goes to show the depth of all round horse/breeding knowledge of some of these panel participants.Sun, 09 Oct 2016 08:20:42 -0500Highland Reel or Order Of St.George winning the Arc would have had little impact on their stud value imo. Both are too exposed and don't have a sexy profile - was Marienbard suddenly a hot stallion prospect after his shock win?If Harzand had won thathttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30690655/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe-2016?post_id=550123653#550123653Highland Reel or Order Of St.George winning the Arc would have had little impact on their stud value imo. Both are too exposed and don't have a sexy profile - was Marienbard suddenly a hot stallion prospect after his shock win?If Harzand had won thatSun, 09 Oct 2016 07:51:30 -0500They're talking absolute bollox Imp. The Arc has never been a stallion-making race, certainly not for Coolmore anyway. HR didn't win a European turf G1 at 2 or 3, which is pretty essential if you're trying to make a stallion. Coolmore are also ovehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30690655/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe-2016?post_id=550123611#550123611They're talking absolute bollox Imp. The Arc has never been a stallion-making race, certainly not for Coolmore anyway. HR didn't win a European turf G1 at 2 or 3, which is pretty essential if you're trying to make a stallion. Coolmore are also oveSun, 09 Oct 2016 07:48:29 -0500The chair was Cattermole and the panels comprised Jim McGrath (Australian) plus another Jim and another whose name escaped me - they were clearly alluding/hinting to the financial costs to 'Coolmore' with Highland Reel and Order Of St George finishinhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30690655/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe-2016?post_id=550123163#550123163The chair was Cattermole and the panels comprised Jim McGrath (Australian) plus another Jim and another whose name escaped me - they were clearly alluding/hinting to the financial costs to 'Coolmore' with Highland Reel and Order Of St George finishinSun, 09 Oct 2016 06:59:24 -0500I don't think the panel know what they're talking about in that case, imp! Who said that?https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30690655/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe-2016?post_id=550122925#550122925I don't think the panel know what they're talking about in that case, imp! Who said that?Sun, 09 Oct 2016 06:24:35 -0500The panel on ATR alluded to the cost to 'Coolmore' the win of Found in the 'Arc' ie had she not run the winner would be Highland Reel (a colt) despite them pocketing over £3.5m in prize money in the race.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30690655/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe-2016?post_id=550122867#550122867The panel on ATR alluded to the cost to 'Coolmore' the win of Found in the 'Arc' ie had she not run the winner would be Highland Reel (a colt) despite them pocketing over £3.5m in prize money in the race.Sun, 09 Oct 2016 06:11:26 -0500