New Posts For Thread: irish champion stakeshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30573339/irish-champion-stakesj gosden confirmed golden horn's next target. could be interesting if free eagle and gleneagles turn up.Anybody know who galloped with Glen after racing?https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30573339/irish-champion-stakes?post_id=546216449#546216449Anybody know who galloped with Glen after racing?Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:34:41 -0500A few questions1) would Free Eagle have beaten Found with a clear run?2) would Free Eagle have beaten Golden Horn with a clear run?I would say the answer to (1) is yes.The answer to (2) is difficult to answer. There was about 1/2 length between themhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30573339/irish-champion-stakes?post_id=546214235#546214235A few questions1) would Free Eagle have beaten Found with a clear run?2) would Free Eagle have beaten Golden Horn with a clear run?I would say the answer to (1) is yes.The answer to (2) is difficult to answer. There was about 1/2 length between themMon, 14 Sep 2015 02:34:51 -0500If Found had not finished second and FE had, the result might well have been reversed. The distance between them might not have carried as much weight as the fact that the bump knocked FE out of his stride and he couldn't be expected to have recoverehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30573339/irish-champion-stakes?post_id=546202971#546202971If Found had not finished second and FE had, the result might well have been reversed. The distance between them might not have carried as much weight as the fact that the bump knocked FE out of his stride and he couldn't be expected to have recovereSun, 13 Sep 2015 06:53:10 -0500Free Eagle very unlucky the bump from GH cost it any chance.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30573339/irish-champion-stakes?post_id=546202741#546202741Free Eagle very unlucky the bump from GH cost it any chance.Sun, 13 Sep 2015 06:25:29 -0500fozwald, my apology: I had not read post race comments by Gosden that GH jumped a shadow.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30573339/irish-champion-stakes?post_id=546202003#546202003fozwald, my apology: I had not read post race comments by Gosden that GH jumped a shadow.Sun, 13 Sep 2015 05:07:19 -0500I was a Free Eagle backer and I think Golden Horn would probably have fought back and won anyway, but Free Eagle went through the race like the best horse and on better ground could be a real superstar. I know Weld has talked about the Arc for him fohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30573339/irish-champion-stakes?post_id=546201401#546201401I was a Free Eagle backer and I think Golden Horn would probably have fought back and won anyway, but Free Eagle went through the race like the best horse and on better ground could be a real superstar. I know Weld has talked about the Arc for him foSun, 13 Sep 2015 03:29:54 -0500I'm fairly sure golden horn would have still won. I'm also fairly sure the filly would have still won the larger as well, which is where the rules fail.It's whether you want a horse penalised for 'fouling' another or whether you want the stewards tohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30573339/irish-champion-stakes?post_id=546201357#546201357I'm fairly sure golden horn would have still won. I'm also fairly sure the filly would have still won the larger as well, which is where the rules fail.It's whether you want a horse penalised for 'fouling' another or whether you want the stewards toSun, 13 Sep 2015 03:18:52 -0500Harry, it looked like he was finding something at the time, side on, but the head on showed him to be hanging left under Smullen's corrective whip, and at the time of the bump he was a good 3/4 length behind and not running straight. He would have enhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30573339/irish-champion-stakes?post_id=546201293#546201293Harry, it looked like he was finding something at the time, side on, but the head on showed him to be hanging left under Smullen's corrective whip, and at the time of the bump he was a good 3/4 length behind and not running straight. He would have enSun, 13 Sep 2015 03:06:05 -0500I backed Cirrus Des Aigles so I am not talking through my pocket. (the commentator was saying Cyrus every time?)Again I was disgusted with the Leopardstown Stewards in an Irish Champion Stakes.The first time was 2003 when Falbrav was deliberately puhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30573339/irish-champion-stakes?post_id=546201259#546201259I backed Cirrus Des Aigles so I am not talking through my pocket. (the commentator was saying Cyrus every time?)Again I was disgusted with the Leopardstown Stewards in an Irish Champion Stakes.The first time was 2003 when Falbrav was deliberately puSun, 13 Sep 2015 02:56:24 -0500I thought the winner was good on ground absolutely as soft as he'd want it, Found was brilliant and will come on again for it, Free Eagle is a class horse and it's a credit to the front two that they held him - he does handle that ground and it wouldhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30573339/irish-champion-stakes?post_id=546197691#546197691I thought the winner was good on ground absolutely as soft as he'd want it, Found was brilliant and will come on again for it, Free Eagle is a class horse and it's a credit to the front two that they held him - he does handle that ground and it wouldSat, 12 Sep 2015 15:49:49 -0500