New Posts For Thread: Prince of Wales Stakes 17th Junehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30503045/prince-of-wales-stakes-17th-juneFree Eagle 4/1The Grey Gatsby 5/1California Chrome 12/1Ectot 12/1Tryster 16/1Postponed 16/1Al Kazeem 16/1A shame Free Eagle misses his run this weekend in the Tattersalls Gold Cup. You would now expect TGG to win that and his odds shorten.Ectot reporwd harry.Shocker from Ectot.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30503045/prince-of-wales-stakes-17th-june?post_id=545162963#545162963wd harry.Shocker from Ectot.Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:58:32 -0500ye tricky figgis with the winner being so fragile, a lot of people feel the gatsby was unlucky and he was to an extent but the winner deserves credit for doing it the hard way and there is a head wind there today as well, at least the good horses camhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30503045/prince-of-wales-stakes-17th-june?post_id=545160727#545160727ye tricky figgis with the winner being so fragile, a lot of people feel the gatsby was unlucky and he was to an extent but the winner deserves credit for doing it the hard way and there is a head wind there today as well, at least the good horses camWed, 17 Jun 2015 10:57:49 -0500You were right, harry. On first impressions I don't really know what to make of that for the future, the slow pace confuses things.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30503045/prince-of-wales-stakes-17th-june?post_id=545160441#545160441You were right, harry. On first impressions I don't really know what to make of that for the future, the slow pace confuses things.Wed, 17 Jun 2015 10:43:59 -0500disappointing turn out hard to believe there's a middle distance champ herehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30503045/prince-of-wales-stakes-17th-june?post_id=545159713#545159713disappointing turn out hard to believe there's a middle distance champ hereWed, 17 Jun 2015 10:13:59 -0500Figgis, I differ slightly in that I have Gatsby and Eagle a few pounds clear on last year's form. My worry about Gatsby is that he needs a sustained strong pace, as at Leopardstown, at this level, and I can't see him getting it today. He will have ahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30503045/prince-of-wales-stakes-17th-june?post_id=545156841#545156841Figgis, I differ slightly in that I have Gatsby and Eagle a few pounds clear on last year's form. My worry about Gatsby is that he needs a sustained strong pace, as at Leopardstown, at this level, and I can't see him getting it today. He will have aWed, 17 Jun 2015 07:43:16 -0500fair comments i prefer his leopardstown run against proven handicappers/listed horses was how i rated him, ascot ground was brutal against hardened types in the champion and he was just to inexperienced imohe has only had 4 starts and his brother cushttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30503045/prince-of-wales-stakes-17th-june?post_id=545156687#545156687fair comments i prefer his leopardstown run against proven handicappers/listed horses was how i rated him, ascot ground was brutal against hardened types in the champion and he was just to inexperienced imohe has only had 4 starts and his brother cusWed, 17 Jun 2015 07:22:56 -0500Harry, as I said all horses (well maybe not Frankel ) need to improve from 3 to 4. For instance, I see Timeform have him 129p. Assuming that rating was from his Champion Stakes third then 5lbs of that rating is an added on allowance due to wfa. Actuahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30503045/prince-of-wales-stakes-17th-june?post_id=545156173#545156173Harry, as I said all horses (well maybe not Frankel ) need to improve from 3 to 4. For instance, I see Timeform have him 129p. Assuming that rating was from his Champion Stakes third then 5lbs of that rating is an added on allowance due to wfa. ActuaWed, 17 Jun 2015 06:20:35 -0500Figgis why do you think free eagles price is to short i thought he was a tad of value here at 3-1 should be a lot shorter against these horses...https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30503045/prince-of-wales-stakes-17th-june?post_id=545156031#545156031Figgis why do you think free eagles price is to short i thought he was a tad of value here at 3-1 should be a lot shorter against these horses...Wed, 17 Jun 2015 06:05:44 -0500A tricky race as we just don't know if Free Eagle has progressed. Like all horses he needs to improve from 3 to 4 to still cut it at the top level. This has been the problem so far with The Grey Gatsby this year, he hasn't lost his form he's just beehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30503045/prince-of-wales-stakes-17th-june?post_id=545155871#545155871A tricky race as we just don't know if Free Eagle has progressed. Like all horses he needs to improve from 3 to 4 to still cut it at the top level. This has been the problem so far with The Grey Gatsby this year, he hasn't lost his form he's just beeWed, 17 Jun 2015 05:44:28 -0500On Ectot ante-post, saver on the favourite.GL all.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30503045/prince-of-wales-stakes-17th-june?post_id=545154569#545154569On Ectot ante-post, saver on the favourite.GL all.Wed, 17 Jun 2015 01:01:15 -0500