New Posts For Thread: Kingman Steaminghttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30350573/kingman-steamingfor the QE2 , any news ?yeah Brigust, fair enough, but what about R Moore - is he stuck or could he choose Australia ? JOB won't be doing that weight againhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30350573/kingman-steaming?post_id=541624215#541624215yeah Brigust, fair enough, but what about R Moore - is he stuck or could he choose Australia ? JOB won't be doing that weight againSat, 27 Sep 2014 15:11:45 -0500I have said for a long time Coolmore is bad for racing and if they aren't running Australia in either the Arc or the Champion stakes BECAUSE JOB cannot do the weight that proves my point. No wonder AOB was so disturbed after the Leopardstown defeat ihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30350573/kingman-steaming?post_id=541623739#541623739I have said for a long time Coolmore is bad for racing and if they aren't running Australia in either the Arc or the Champion stakes BECAUSE JOB cannot do the weight that proves my point. No wonder AOB was so disturbed after the Leopardstown defeat iSat, 27 Sep 2014 14:39:35 -0500and who do you think will ride Australia - I'm thinking Ryan Moore - but what if Michael Stoute supplemented one of Arab Spring, Cannock Chase or Hillstar ???https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30350573/kingman-steaming?post_id=541623567#541623567and who do you think will ride Australia - I'm thinking Ryan Moore - but what if Michael Stoute supplemented one of Arab Spring, Cannock Chase or Hillstar ???Sat, 27 Sep 2014 14:26:25 -0500You are probably right Andrew. Trying to second guess trainers is a task all of it's own. Henderson has been making favourable sounds about SS so lets hope he meets Sire de Grugy along the way. Still some mileage in the flat season to go though. Takehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30350573/kingman-steaming?post_id=541617841#541617841You are probably right Andrew. Trying to second guess trainers is a task all of it's own. Henderson has been making favourable sounds about SS so lets hope he meets Sire de Grugy along the way. Still some mileage in the flat season to go though. TakeSat, 27 Sep 2014 07:37:48 -0500Hi Brigust, sorry I missed your 11.09 post yesterday (busy Bee here) I'm convinced Australia will be taking the champion route (not the QEII), it's his for the taking and he's the one I will be on. That aside, not seeing Kingman is a disappointment,https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30350573/kingman-steaming?post_id=541609201#541609201Hi Brigust, sorry I missed your 11.09 post yesterday (busy Bee here) I'm convinced Australia will be taking the champion route (not the QEII), it's his for the taking and he's the one I will be on. That aside, not seeing Kingman is a disappointment,Fri, 26 Sep 2014 13:52:00 -0500But you're right, in that playing to Kingman's sprint speed is suicidal . James Doyle was wise in the PJM and if anything that's where they should have tried to stretch him, on heavy ground aswell.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30350573/kingman-steaming?post_id=541604713#541604713But you're right, in that playing to Kingman's sprint speed is suicidal . James Doyle was wise in the PJM and if anything that's where they should have tried to stretch him, on heavy ground aswell.Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:45:31 -0500hmm .. that's interesting ! I guess Hughesie was still in shock from the James Palace where they had gone fair clip and Kingman just destroyed NoT ... must have thought the only way to beat him was catch him sleeping ... and in fairness he did go oddhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30350573/kingman-steaming?post_id=541604689#541604689hmm .. that's interesting ! I guess Hughesie was still in shock from the James Palace where they had gone fair clip and Kingman just destroyed NoT ... must have thought the only way to beat him was catch him sleeping ... and in fairness he did go oddFri, 26 Sep 2014 06:43:59 -0500I'm sure Ryan will keep his options open. I've always thought Australia would beat Kingman over a mile. But the fact they are never going to meet means part of me would like to see possibility of more hype removed. I don't think Toronado is unbeatablhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30350573/kingman-steaming?post_id=541603803#541603803I'm sure Ryan will keep his options open. I've always thought Australia would beat Kingman over a mile. But the fact they are never going to meet means part of me would like to see possibility of more hype removed. I don't think Toronado is unbeatablFri, 26 Sep 2014 04:46:50 -0500Though I don't see Ryan Moore contractually obliged to ride anything in the Champ Stks ... ??https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30350573/kingman-steaming?post_id=541603759#541603759Though I don't see Ryan Moore contractually obliged to ride anything in the Champ Stks ... ??Fri, 26 Sep 2014 04:40:28 -0500no, i was only joking .. everything is about speed w A O'B .. in the Derby he obv came from off the pace and caught KH who had gotten a handy lead, and did it travelling beautifully.Obv Joseph doesn't want to get off him, hence the QE2 comments, buthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30350573/kingman-steaming?post_id=541603731#541603731no, i was only joking .. everything is about speed w A O'B .. in the Derby he obv came from off the pace and caught KH who had gotten a handy lead, and did it travelling beautifully.Obv Joseph doesn't want to get off him, hence the QE2 comments, butFri, 26 Sep 2014 04:34:41 -0500