New Posts For Thread: Learning about horse racinghttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30242225/learning-about-horse-racingWhere is a good site to learn about horse racing? Specifically, I want to learn how/why prices move pre-market. Are there specific events that happen pre-market that cause the prices to move a lot? I've seen prices move pretty significantly in thbig syndicates dont bother with the markets until liquidity arrives in the last 10 minshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30242225/learning-about-horse-racing?post_id=539846039#539846039big syndicates dont bother with the markets until liquidity arrives in the last 10 minsMon, 09 Jun 2014 08:32:39 -0500could be paddock watchers or form students waiting to get stuck in.who really knwos whats the main influence.you can get stats that are way out of sync for a spell and these horses will always shorten.i always thought paddock watchers had more influehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30242225/learning-about-horse-racing?post_id=539753019#539753019could be paddock watchers or form students waiting to get stuck in.who really knwos whats the main influence.you can get stats that are way out of sync for a spell and these horses will always shorten.i always thought paddock watchers had more influeWed, 04 Jun 2014 07:38:42 -0500Perhaps as with every investment, you should trickle funds in (backs) and out (lays) so incremental bets. I saw some data that said that BF prices at 1030 were less efficient than at race start i.e. winners were shorter and losers longer by race timehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30242225/learning-about-horse-racing?post_id=539752837#539752837Perhaps as with every investment, you should trickle funds in (backs) and out (lays) so incremental bets. I saw some data that said that BF prices at 1030 were less efficient than at race start i.e. winners were shorter and losers longer by race timeWed, 04 Jun 2014 07:21:04 -0500My methodology is irrelevant here. The OP asked about price fluctuations pre-market and I find this the most difficult thing to get a handle on and I am terrible at predicting market moves.Yes of course if a 'name' tipster comes in, the price collapshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30242225/learning-about-horse-racing?post_id=539737463#539737463My methodology is irrelevant here. The OP asked about price fluctuations pre-market and I find this the most difficult thing to get a handle on and I am terrible at predicting market moves.Yes of course if a 'name' tipster comes in, the price collapsTue, 03 Jun 2014 07:28:30 -0500For example, from my data set for Flat horses, I can set the PV (potential value) to any value and see the returns, but which is best?In this case these are the following results for different PV figuresPV Fig 0.0 Qualifiers 2484 Winners 380 ROR -1%https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30242225/learning-about-horse-racing?post_id=539633991#539633991For example, from my data set for Flat horses, I can set the PV (potential value) to any value and see the returns, but which is best?In this case these are the following results for different PV figuresPV Fig 0.0 Qualifiers 2484 Winners 380 ROR -1%Thu, 29 May 2014 07:48:22 -0500Non-runner.Referring back to the previous postings, what's the best way to tackle a system's data. Do you go for the maximum rate of return (usually less bets but far more possible variance) or a lesser ROR but more winners and hence less variance. Ahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30242225/learning-about-horse-racing?post_id=539633885#539633885Non-runner.Referring back to the previous postings, what's the best way to tackle a system's data. Do you go for the maximum rate of return (usually less bets but far more possible variance) or a lesser ROR but more winners and hence less variance. AThu, 29 May 2014 07:39:36 -0500Looks like the world and his wife want to be on Abseil, best price 6/4 with books already.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30242225/learning-about-horse-racing?post_id=539608027#539608027Looks like the world and his wife want to be on Abseil, best price 6/4 with books already.Wed, 28 May 2014 15:59:18 -0500Interesting input Steve, not sure be much good in the going description tomorrow, but seems to act well enough on softer, down in grade and a win probbably gets it up towards the magic OR to get in as you say. Must be a fair bet at 2/1 or bigger.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30242225/learning-about-horse-racing?post_id=539603373#539603373Interesting input Steve, not sure be much good in the going description tomorrow, but seems to act well enough on softer, down in grade and a win probbably gets it up towards the magic OR to get in as you say. Must be a fair bet at 2/1 or bigger.Wed, 28 May 2014 12:23:31 -0500Big Issue, I gave Abseil a very good rating for his Yarmouth win, he then ran into a potential group horse at chester and I don't think that ground was ideal there either, the dam is related to the likes of Dansili and Banks Hill and I'm sure like thhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30242225/learning-about-horse-racing?post_id=539603269#539603269Big Issue, I gave Abseil a very good rating for his Yarmouth win, he then ran into a potential group horse at chester and I don't think that ground was ideal there either, the dam is related to the likes of Dansili and Banks Hill and I'm sure like thWed, 28 May 2014 12:18:23 -0500Abseil has been priced up early at a best price of 2/1 by the books.Anybody else rate this one's chances?One for Friday: Sipertan Haydock 2105 Rated 2.12https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30242225/learning-about-horse-racing?post_id=539602639#539602639Abseil has been priced up early at a best price of 2/1 by the books.Anybody else rate this one's chances?One for Friday: Sipertan Haydock 2105 Rated 2.12Wed, 28 May 2014 11:34:58 -0500