New Posts For Thread: Christmas Hurdlehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30158141/christmas-hurdleAlthough an ante-post market has yet to take shape for Kempton, the sponsor on Sunday priced up the race as a match, with The New One 8-11 and My Tent Or Yours evens. Evens on Mtoy Ty wins on the bridleGoing to be some brutal Intersky Falcon style fractions at the Festival. NTD confirming he'll use a pacemaker and I wouldn't rule out JP using Captain CeeBee in the same way for his horses too...which is probably a smart play if both Jezki and MTOY nhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30158141/christmas-hurdle?post_id=537133371#537133371Going to be some brutal Intersky Falcon style fractions at the Festival. NTD confirming he'll use a pacemaker and I wouldn't rule out JP using Captain CeeBee in the same way for his horses too...which is probably a smart play if both Jezki and MTOY nSun, 29 Dec 2013 14:24:12 -0600And if you speak to anyone that knows anything about the horse they will say the same thing. The faster the pace the better for MTOY.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30158141/christmas-hurdle?post_id=537131877#537131877And if you speak to anyone that knows anything about the horse they will say the same thing. The faster the pace the better for MTOY.Sun, 29 Dec 2013 13:03:02 -0600Why do people say the same thing every other year about a horse? "Won't get up the hill" "bridal ponce". We had it with Binocular and the same with Sprinter Sacre. It's just a bit silly. If he comes second or third it won't be because he doesn't findhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30158141/christmas-hurdle?post_id=537131847#537131847Why do people say the same thing every other year about a horse? "Won't get up the hill" "bridal ponce". We had it with Binocular and the same with Sprinter Sacre. It's just a bit silly. If he comes second or third it won't be because he doesn't findSun, 29 Dec 2013 13:01:48 -0600Agreed eric, I disagree pretty much completely with your last post, I think it is factually incorrect...I think that there is a complete disagreement between a few people on here regarding the most fundamental aspects of the pace issue and just who ihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30158141/christmas-hurdle?post_id=537113737#537113737Agreed eric, I disagree pretty much completely with your last post, I think it is factually incorrect...I think that there is a complete disagreement between a few people on here regarding the most fundamental aspects of the pace issue and just who iSat, 28 Dec 2013 11:14:51 -0600Well my guess is you do have a financial interest in some way however we can agree to disagree because I believe the way the race unfolded suited MTOY, who had a mistake free round and target, far more than TNO where not much more could have gone wrohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30158141/christmas-hurdle?post_id=537113539#537113539Well my guess is you do have a financial interest in some way however we can agree to disagree because I believe the way the race unfolded suited MTOY, who had a mistake free round and target, far more than TNO where not much more could have gone wroSat, 28 Dec 2013 11:02:02 -0600Haven't backed him.....just want to argue the fact he's no bridal ponce..that's all, I think he proved that the other day and despite all the plaudits that the 2nd received, I don't think that tent received his due credit for actually winning the rachttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30158141/christmas-hurdle?post_id=537113451#537113451Haven't backed him.....just want to argue the fact he's no bridal ponce..that's all, I think he proved that the other day and despite all the plaudits that the 2nd received, I don't think that tent received his due credit for actually winning the racSat, 28 Dec 2013 10:55:22 -0600Binocular ran at Cheltenham 5 times from 22 runs roughly 1 in every 4.5 which again is a far higher ration than the 1 from 11 of MTOY !Binocular placings at Cheltenham, another cruiser who wasn't great up the hill though did win CHurdle-2nd, 3rd, 1sthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30158141/christmas-hurdle?post_id=537113225#537113225Binocular ran at Cheltenham 5 times from 22 runs roughly 1 in every 4.5 which again is a far higher ration than the 1 from 11 of MTOY !Binocular placings at Cheltenham, another cruiser who wasn't great up the hill though did win CHurdle-2nd, 3rd, 1stSat, 28 Dec 2013 10:41:58 -0600Think you've sussed them out eric, they probably share your view that the bridal ponce will get found out by it.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30158141/christmas-hurdle?post_id=537113079#537113079Think you've sussed them out eric, they probably share your view that the bridal ponce will get found out by it.Sat, 28 Dec 2013 10:34:36 -0600Punjabi ran at Cheltenham 6 of his 23 runs for Henderson that's around 1 in 4. MTOY has run there 1 in 11 it is almost as though they have been avoiding the hillhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30158141/christmas-hurdle?post_id=537112973#537112973Punjabi ran at Cheltenham 6 of his 23 runs for Henderson that's around 1 in 4. MTOY has run there 1 in 11 it is almost as though they have been avoiding the hillSat, 28 Dec 2013 10:28:18 -0600mcmanus/hendo's CH horses tend not to be campaigned at cheltenham during the season until the festival, Binocular never, Darlan ran there once as a novice but wasn't the next year, just the way they set them out...nothing in it at all, even a horse lhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/30158141/christmas-hurdle?post_id=537112309#537112309mcmanus/hendo's CH horses tend not to be campaigned at cheltenham during the season until the festival, Binocular never, Darlan ran there once as a novice but wasn't the next year, just the way they set them out...nothing in it at all, even a horse lSat, 28 Dec 2013 09:56:40 -0600