New Posts For Thread: Long Run - People overestimate the Waley Cohen factor.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29602419/long-run---people-overestimate-the-waley-cohen-factorPurely in my view but I think people put 2 and 2 together and get 51. The horse simply has his own way of doing things and this accentuates what appears to be Cohen's amateurishness. I very much doubt the top jockeys would have unblemished rounds witMaximise the horses ability perhaps.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29602419/long-run---people-overestimate-the-waley-cohen-factor?post_id=527615359#527615359Maximise the horses ability perhaps.Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:16:53 -0600I have to say that I am amazed that people are still criticising Waley-Cohen after boxing day. Quite simply he gave the horse a perfect ride and got it home when it looked well beat, not sure wat else the lad has to do?https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29602419/long-run---people-overestimate-the-waley-cohen-factor?post_id=527602471#527602471I have to say that I am amazed that people are still criticising Waley-Cohen after boxing day. Quite simply he gave the horse a perfect ride and got it home when it looked well beat, not sure wat else the lad has to do?Sun, 30 Dec 2012 10:52:15 -0600Good points Steeple - Good posthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29602419/long-run---people-overestimate-the-waley-cohen-factor?post_id=527553331#527553331Good points Steeple - Good postFri, 28 Dec 2012 13:11:27 -0600Looking at the two jocks who fought out the finish, in the past 5 seasons SWC has had 106 rides; R Johnson's had 3,803.(RJ was 0 from 4 on Boxing Day; SWC was 2 from 2)Regardless of innate talent, you'd expect RJ to be 'the better jockey', on the 'prhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29602419/long-run---people-overestimate-the-waley-cohen-factor?post_id=527550533#527550533Looking at the two jocks who fought out the finish, in the past 5 seasons SWC has had 106 rides; R Johnson's had 3,803.(RJ was 0 from 4 on Boxing Day; SWC was 2 from 2)Regardless of innate talent, you'd expect RJ to be 'the better jockey', on the 'prFri, 28 Dec 2012 11:30:05 -0600MastermindedI'm not aware of anybody saying the ride was brilliant or that Cohen is a brilliant jockey. My point is that the horse isn't straight forward and could well cause the top jockeys who many are clamouring for some trouble if they did ride ihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29602419/long-run---people-overestimate-the-waley-cohen-factor?post_id=527534663#527534663MastermindedI'm not aware of anybody saying the ride was brilliant or that Cohen is a brilliant jockey. My point is that the horse isn't straight forward and could well cause the top jockeys who many are clamouring for some trouble if they did ride iThu, 27 Dec 2012 17:56:14 -0600Just to correct a previous comment and the accusation of pocket talking I had backed Grands Crus ante post prior to the Paddy Power and didn't have another bet in the race. I did give my opinion that everything had fallen Long Run's way and that I thhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29602419/long-run---people-overestimate-the-waley-cohen-factor?post_id=527534631#527534631Just to correct a previous comment and the accusation of pocket talking I had backed Grands Crus ante post prior to the Paddy Power and didn't have another bet in the race. I did give my opinion that everything had fallen Long Run's way and that I thThu, 27 Dec 2012 17:53:25 -0600Any of the top 20 or so professional jockey`s could reap out improvement from Long Run. The horse is definitely not straight forward. I`m sure he has started to think about the game and that he downed tools up the hill at Cheltenham last season in thhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29602419/long-run---people-overestimate-the-waley-cohen-factor?post_id=527533895#527533895Any of the top 20 or so professional jockey`s could reap out improvement from Long Run. The horse is definitely not straight forward. I`m sure he has started to think about the game and that he downed tools up the hill at Cheltenham last season in thThu, 27 Dec 2012 17:07:48 -0600Fact of the matter is I think you have a high 170's bordering 180 horse running just to just about 170. Some days this is good enough other days not so much. It's not pretty to watch but Sam has got the results that him and his family have wanted sohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29602419/long-run---people-overestimate-the-waley-cohen-factor?post_id=527531537#527531537Fact of the matter is I think you have a high 170's bordering 180 horse running just to just about 170. Some days this is good enough other days not so much. It's not pretty to watch but Sam has got the results that him and his family have wanted soThu, 27 Dec 2012 15:39:03 -0600Read plenty of negative comments regarding SWC after yesterday and in this case I can't understand it one bit, there are a few points where I think he deserves plenty of credit.1.To my eye the horse made one real mistake in the race, the one at the lhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29602419/long-run---people-overestimate-the-waley-cohen-factor?post_id=527527673#527527673Read plenty of negative comments regarding SWC after yesterday and in this case I can't understand it one bit, there are a few points where I think he deserves plenty of credit.1.To my eye the horse made one real mistake in the race, the one at the lThu, 27 Dec 2012 13:31:35 -0600EOSWC is not the most stylish but on Rajdhani Express he was on a horse taking him places. The ride on Long Run required decision making, presentation and elbow grease. Long Run shows signs of insecurity at his fences so could AP bring out improvemenhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29602419/long-run---people-overestimate-the-waley-cohen-factor?post_id=527526349#527526349EOSWC is not the most stylish but on Rajdhani Express he was on a horse taking him places. The ride on Long Run required decision making, presentation and elbow grease. Long Run shows signs of insecurity at his fences so could AP bring out improvemenThu, 27 Dec 2012 12:36:05 -0600