New Posts For Thread: How Significant are the St.Leger Trials?https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29337263/how-significant-are-the-stleger-trialsI posted on another thread a few weeks ago about the Gordon & Great Voltigeur as trials for the St.Leger and after yesterday's puzzling & messy affair, I decided to do some deeper investigation.Noble Mission (who connections surprisingly dispensed wiRoo - I too had strong reservations about his stamina though I had them about Encke & Thomas Chippendale too!The point is that the trials tell a valid tale, and we never know until they try the trip.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29337263/how-significant-are-the-stleger-trials?post_id=524218005#524218005Roo - I too had strong reservations about his stamina though I had them about Encke & Thomas Chippendale too!The point is that the trials tell a valid tale, and we never know until they try the trip.Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:41:29 -0500I know the form stacks up, but honestly don't think NM would have stayed.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29337263/how-significant-are-the-stleger-trials?post_id=524217691#524217691I know the form stacks up, but honestly don't think NM would have stayed.Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:30:14 -0500Strontium - the only relative 'shock' was that Camelot seemed to fail with no real excuses, despite the criticism of his pilot.My main 'confidence' stemmed from the fact I reasoned there was very little between EVERY other runner in the race, and I rhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29337263/how-significant-are-the-stleger-trials?post_id=524216561#524216561Strontium - the only relative 'shock' was that Camelot seemed to fail with no real excuses, despite the criticism of his pilot.My main 'confidence' stemmed from the fact I reasoned there was very little between EVERY other runner in the race, and I rMon, 17 Sep 2012 08:51:47 -0500Well done OP - runners in the Voltiger and Gordon do have a tremendous record in the Leger and this one had come 2nd and 3rd in them - maybe not such a shock after all?https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29337263/how-significant-are-the-stleger-trials?post_id=524158323#524158323Well done OP - runners in the Voltiger and Gordon do have a tremendous record in the Leger and this one had come 2nd and 3rd in them - maybe not such a shock after all?Sat, 15 Sep 2012 10:18:54 -0500I put up Encke on another thread because of these reasons (I thought it was this thread) but I have to admit I did have reservations about his stamina.I backed & laid Encke, Noble Mission & Thomas Chippendale several times, and for a nice change I'vehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29337263/how-significant-are-the-stleger-trials?post_id=524157587#524157587I put up Encke on another thread because of these reasons (I thought it was this thread) but I have to admit I did have reservations about his stamina.I backed & laid Encke, Noble Mission & Thomas Chippendale several times, and for a nice change I'veSat, 15 Sep 2012 10:00:58 -0500Lol, think you're right.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29337263/how-significant-are-the-stleger-trials?post_id=523639289#523639289Lol, think you're right.Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:12:33 -0500Figgis, it's main significance is as a Triumph Hurdle trial. Look at the mighty Celestial Halo.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29337263/how-significant-are-the-stleger-trials?post_id=523639095#523639095Figgis, it's main significance is as a Triumph Hurdle trial. Look at the mighty Celestial Halo.Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:06:54 -0500How significant is the St Leger (full stop)? Looking at recent winners of the race, apart from Conduit, there were some reasonable but easily forgettable horses. For me, a triple crown winner does not have anywhere near the significance it would've hhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29337263/how-significant-are-the-stleger-trials?post_id=523638375#523638375How significant is the St Leger (full stop)? Looking at recent winners of the race, apart from Conduit, there were some reasonable but easily forgettable horses. For me, a triple crown winner does not have anywhere near the significance it would've hFri, 31 Aug 2012 08:42:59 -0500the fact connections of camelot are going for the triple crown should be applauded and if it does win will be a decent training feat ...no doubt about it and it will show the beast is a proper horse and i think this is what the st leger is really abohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29337263/how-significant-are-the-stleger-trials?post_id=523634135#523634135the fact connections of camelot are going for the triple crown should be applauded and if it does win will be a decent training feat ...no doubt about it and it will show the beast is a proper horse and i think this is what the st leger is really aboFri, 31 Aug 2012 05:14:29 -0500lucarno was 4th to authorized at epsom ,won the great vol and even back then the st leger did not take much winning ,although whether lucarno was a true stayer is open for debate,gosden had it super fit ...almost overtrained it imo .a derby winner shhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29337263/how-significant-are-the-stleger-trials?post_id=523633803#523633803lucarno was 4th to authorized at epsom ,won the great vol and even back then the st leger did not take much winning ,although whether lucarno was a true stayer is open for debate,gosden had it super fit ...almost overtrained it imo .a derby winner shFri, 31 Aug 2012 04:51:22 -0500