New Posts For Thread: THE IRISH DERBY. IMP MONARCH 12/1https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29173091/the-irish-derby-imp-monarch-121great e/w bet, camelot 1/4 much too shortnot sure how confident I'd be backing him in the GPdP even he got his conditions,o'Brien doesnt have best of records over there and Fabre can be hard to bet againsthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29173091/the-irish-derby-imp-monarch-121?post_id=521421099#521421099not sure how confident I'd be backing him in the GPdP even he got his conditions,o'Brien doesnt have best of records over there and Fabre can be hard to bet againstSat, 30 Jun 2012 15:45:44 -0500They wont run IM in the Eclipse because of SYT. And they wont run him in the King George because of SNA.So to France it is imo ..He would have loved that ground today thats why they took him out!https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29173091/the-irish-derby-imp-monarch-121?post_id=521420729#521420729They wont run IM in the Eclipse because of SYT. And they wont run him in the King George because of SNA.So to France it is imo ..He would have loved that ground today thats why they took him out!Sat, 30 Jun 2012 15:35:10 -0500agree IM would have handled the ground no problem going on his sandown run,born to sea ran a cracker,the urban sea influence over the trip along with fact invincible spirits handle ease in ground worked well today not many of them get the trip seemedhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29173091/the-irish-derby-imp-monarch-121?post_id=521420617#521420617agree IM would have handled the ground no problem going on his sandown run,born to sea ran a cracker,the urban sea influence over the trip along with fact invincible spirits handle ease in ground worked well today not many of them get the trip seemedSat, 30 Jun 2012 15:31:46 -0500Be amazed if IC dosen't run in the Grand Prix De Paris - if he was fit I think he'd have won today.Camelot won but hardly did anything to enhance his reputation which is based on beating a load of very bad 3 year olds. Thats presumably why they are ghttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29173091/the-irish-derby-imp-monarch-121?post_id=521419693#521419693Be amazed if IC dosen't run in the Grand Prix De Paris - if he was fit I think he'd have won today.Camelot won but hardly did anything to enhance his reputation which is based on beating a load of very bad 3 year olds. Thats presumably why they are gSat, 30 Jun 2012 15:05:48 -0500barney curley bloody saint compared with what this lot get up to imohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29173091/the-irish-derby-imp-monarch-121?post_id=521413797#521413797barney curley bloody saint compared with what this lot get up to imoSat, 30 Jun 2012 12:04:39 -0500They obviously had no intentions of running them both. Not on that ground anyway.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29173091/the-irish-derby-imp-monarch-121?post_id=521411611#521411611They obviously had no intentions of running them both. Not on that ground anyway.Sat, 30 Jun 2012 10:55:47 -0500tend to agree sint,think IM is going to win a race soon though,who knows could end up a contender for the Arc on soft ground,Irish Champion Stakes may also be a target closer to homehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29173091/the-irish-derby-imp-monarch-121?post_id=521411411#521411411tend to agree sint,think IM is going to win a race soon though,who knows could end up a contender for the Arc on soft ground,Irish Champion Stakes may also be a target closer to homeSat, 30 Jun 2012 10:49:51 -0500I also think this small ''pulse'' in the foot is completely made up. They were simply waiting to see if the Ground was suitbale for their ''wonder horse'' and were setting up a ready make excuse to pull it out. Cynical eh?https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29173091/the-irish-derby-imp-monarch-121?post_id=521410897#521410897I also think this small ''pulse'' in the foot is completely made up. They were simply waiting to see if the Ground was suitbale for their ''wonder horse'' and were setting up a ready make excuse to pull it out. Cynical eh?Sat, 30 Jun 2012 10:35:59 -0500No idea why they gave the reason as the ground though when they said it was unsuitbale for Camelot.They would not want to take on SYT in the Eclipse either btw, imo.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29173091/the-irish-derby-imp-monarch-121?post_id=521410827#521410827No idea why they gave the reason as the ground though when they said it was unsuitbale for Camelot.They would not want to take on SYT in the Eclipse either btw, imo.Sat, 30 Jun 2012 10:34:20 -0500Said at the very beginning of the thread both would not run. IM is good enough to give the Fav a race. He is gagging for 12f so cant see the Eclipse being a target.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/29173091/the-irish-derby-imp-monarch-121?post_id=521410705#521410705Said at the very beginning of the thread both would not run. IM is good enough to give the Fav a race. He is gagging for 12f so cant see the Eclipse being a target.Sat, 30 Jun 2012 10:31:34 -0500