New Posts For Thread: 2012 QIPCO 2000 GUINEAS:https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28920587/2012-qipco-2000-guineasLeading Qipco 2000 Guineas fancy Dabirsim will sidestep the Newmarket Classic and stay at home for the French equivalent instead.Trainer Christophe Ferland has decided the English race comes too early in the season and he is not keen on travelling hiOxx keeps faith in Born to Sea Thursday, May 10, 2012 Trainer John Oxx will resist the temptation to bring Born To Sea back in distance after he finished 12th in the 2000 Guineas at Newmarket on Saturday.Famous more for being a half-brother to Sea Thhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28920587/2012-qipco-2000-guineas?post_id=519526735#519526735Oxx keeps faith in Born to Sea Thursday, May 10, 2012 Trainer John Oxx will resist the temptation to bring Born To Sea back in distance after he finished 12th in the 2000 Guineas at Newmarket on Saturday.Famous more for being a half-brother to Sea ThThu, 10 May 2012 05:55:30 -0500Hermival was 2 lengths in front of Camelot and French Fifteen with 2 to go.Think the first two home would have won by 4/5 lengths had they raced on the far sidehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28920587/2012-qipco-2000-guineas?post_id=519379999#519379999Hermival was 2 lengths in front of Camelot and French Fifteen with 2 to go.Think the first two home would have won by 4/5 lengths had they raced on the far sideSun, 06 May 2012 03:02:30 -0500having seen the race again I take back a bit of the stuff about Hermival; the far side was so far behind, if at all, so the first 2 were probably there on merit.It was a horrid race with the filed splitting into 3 groups and the going was plenty deadhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28920587/2012-qipco-2000-guineas?post_id=519379835#519379835having seen the race again I take back a bit of the stuff about Hermival; the far side was so far behind, if at all, so the first 2 were probably there on merit.It was a horrid race with the filed splitting into 3 groups and the going was plenty deadSun, 06 May 2012 02:45:48 -0500Agree with tinkler - the far side horses were probably flattered. Unless you think Coup de Ville and Ptolemaic are Classic horses, that is.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28920587/2012-qipco-2000-guineas?post_id=519368631#519368631Agree with tinkler - the far side horses were probably flattered. Unless you think Coup de Ville and Ptolemaic are Classic horses, that is.Sat, 05 May 2012 15:59:19 -0500They definitely went too quick for the ground conditions imo. Played into the hands of the first two.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28920587/2012-qipco-2000-guineas?post_id=519368231#519368231They definitely went too quick for the ground conditions imo. Played into the hands of the first two.Sat, 05 May 2012 15:48:12 -0500Despite the slow winning time (or perhaps because of it, as it indicates that the ground was sticky/holding) I reckon that the likes of ABTAAL went off too fast and paid the penalty. The first two home came from some way back. I don't think the drahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28920587/2012-qipco-2000-guineas?post_id=519366271#519366271Despite the slow winning time (or perhaps because of it, as it indicates that the ground was sticky/holding) I reckon that the likes of ABTAAL went off too fast and paid the penalty. The first two home came from some way back. I don't think the draSat, 05 May 2012 14:51:10 -0500Think those who raced on the far side raced on the faster ground and that hermival was possibly flattered to come Third. Winning time suggested the ground was bordering on heavy, the winner clocking a 10 length slowertime than Speciosa did over c/dhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28920587/2012-qipco-2000-guineas?post_id=519365357#519365357Think those who raced on the far side raced on the faster ground and that hermival was possibly flattered to come Third. Winning time suggested the ground was bordering on heavy, the winner clocking a 10 length slowertime than Speciosa did over c/dSat, 05 May 2012 14:27:49 -0500I'm only messing cryofruth, Hermival ran a great race and won his side well. I don't why the jocks went over there in the first place. I wouldn't follow Soumillon at Newmarket if my life depended on it, he's not great at this track IMO.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28920587/2012-qipco-2000-guineas?post_id=519356695#519356695I'm only messing cryofruth, Hermival ran a great race and won his side well. I don't why the jocks went over there in the first place. I wouldn't follow Soumillon at Newmarket if my life depended on it, he's not great at this track IMO.Sat, 05 May 2012 10:25:03 -0500Hermival does come out with credit for sure but after watching the first two races I was amazed that Abtaal and Hermival's jockeys went that way.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28920587/2012-qipco-2000-guineas?post_id=519356443#519356443Hermival does come out with credit for sure but after watching the first two races I was amazed that Abtaal and Hermival's jockeys went that way.Sat, 05 May 2012 10:18:26 -0500I like french fifteen too, but the draw did seem to do Hermival in pretty well.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28920587/2012-qipco-2000-guineas?post_id=519356423#519356423I like french fifteen too, but the draw did seem to do Hermival in pretty well.Sat, 05 May 2012 10:17:53 -0500