New Posts For Thread: QE2 Betting Without Frankelhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28502383/qe2-betting-without-frankelExcelebration 2/1Immortal Verse 2/1Dick Turpin 7/1Dubawi Gold 12/1Rio Dela Plata 12/1Cityscape 16/1Poets Voice 16/1Side Glance 16/1Bullet Train 50/1whats your thoughts guys?anyone strongly fancy Excelebration or Immortal over the otherIf frankel and his pacemaker were removed from this race and didn't take part then it would be a big surpriseif Excelebration(assuming its fast) didn't win. He has improved a lot physically since he encountered Frankelin the greenham. I doubt Frankelhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28502383/qe2-betting-without-frankel?post_id=509934037#509934037If frankel and his pacemaker were removed from this race and didn't take part then it would be a big surpriseif Excelebration(assuming its fast) didn't win. He has improved a lot physically since he encountered Frankelin the greenham. I doubt FrankelThu, 13 Oct 2011 07:11:40 -0500Jonibake, I'm not saying Excelebration should be favourite or anything like that, obviously Frankel has the better form and is a worthy, albeit too short, favourite. What I'm saying is Excelebration's chance is much better than his odds, as he's nowhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28502383/qe2-betting-without-frankel?post_id=509931675#509931675Jonibake, I'm not saying Excelebration should be favourite or anything like that, obviously Frankel has the better form and is a worthy, albeit too short, favourite. What I'm saying is Excelebration's chance is much better than his odds, as he's nowThu, 13 Oct 2011 05:47:08 -0500Totally respect your opinion Figg and you are a great judge but not sure how you can doubt the Sussex run. The time was not massively quick overall because they dawdled the first furlong as TQ waited to see if anything would give him a lead. He graduhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28502383/qe2-betting-without-frankel?post_id=509931403#509931403Totally respect your opinion Figg and you are a great judge but not sure how you can doubt the Sussex run. The time was not massively quick overall because they dawdled the first furlong as TQ waited to see if anything would give him a lead. He graduThu, 13 Oct 2011 05:37:00 -0500jonibake Joined: 18 Nov 10Replies: 302 13 Oct 11 08:45 Ex HAS improved Figg snd in any other year would be a champion. The problem is this is not a normal year and Frankel is not an ordinary horse.The bad news for you is that Frankel has improvedhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28502383/qe2-betting-without-frankel?post_id=509930993#509930993jonibake Joined: 18 Nov 10Replies: 302 13 Oct 11 08:45 Ex HAS improved Figg snd in any other year would be a champion. The problem is this is not a normal year and Frankel is not an ordinary horse.The bad news for you is that Frankel has improvedThu, 13 Oct 2011 05:18:21 -0500Figgis... before you bankrupt yourself, would you care to watch the sussex stakes again? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iicnjw_U6QcI, for one, WILL be backing excelebration PLACE ONLY - I think that's pretty much a certainty... but IMVHO you are cluthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28502383/qe2-betting-without-frankel?post_id=509930415#509930415Figgis... before you bankrupt yourself, would you care to watch the sussex stakes again? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iicnjw_U6QcI, for one, WILL be backing excelebration PLACE ONLY - I think that's pretty much a certainty... but IMVHO you are clutThu, 13 Oct 2011 04:51:32 -0500I think Frankel is lenghts better than the rest aswell which is why the market w/o is appealing. Excellebration is top notch in how own right though and will hopegully shade Immortal Verse on account of the better going.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28502383/qe2-betting-without-frankel?post_id=509928839#509928839I think Frankel is lenghts better than the rest aswell which is why the market w/o is appealing. Excellebration is top notch in how own right though and will hopegully shade Immortal Verse on account of the better going.Thu, 13 Oct 2011 03:27:43 -0500Surely the only bet to play here is to back the field e/w at the likely 1/4 odds 1-2-3 your likely to get on the day at best prices with b.o.g? Therefore ok if IM and EXC fill the 2nd and 3rd spots behind frankel you will only take a small hit but ifhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28502383/qe2-betting-without-frankel?post_id=509928319#509928319Surely the only bet to play here is to back the field e/w at the likely 1/4 odds 1-2-3 your likely to get on the day at best prices with b.o.g? Therefore ok if IM and EXC fill the 2nd and 3rd spots behind frankel you will only take a small hit but ifThu, 13 Oct 2011 02:54:06 -0500I fear people could be in for a shock come Saturday afternoon, i hope not, but i fear it. Too many of these 'good things' have been beaten in this race and races like it at the back end of the season too many times down the years for me to be so surehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28502383/qe2-betting-without-frankel?post_id=509928257#509928257I fear people could be in for a shock come Saturday afternoon, i hope not, but i fear it. Too many of these 'good things' have been beaten in this race and races like it at the back end of the season too many times down the years for me to be so sureThu, 13 Oct 2011 02:51:18 -0500Ex HAS improved Figg snd in any other year would be a champion. The problem is this is not a normal year and Frankel is not an ordinary horse.The bad news for you is that Frankel has improved as well. He settles - that is no small thing. Look how eashttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28502383/qe2-betting-without-frankel?post_id=509928161#509928161Ex HAS improved Figg snd in any other year would be a champion. The problem is this is not a normal year and Frankel is not an ordinary horse.The bad news for you is that Frankel has improved as well. He settles - that is no small thing. Look how easThu, 13 Oct 2011 02:45:22 -0500Absolutely not! not even backing Frankel at those prices,only had one bet on the race and thats a nice wedge on Excelebration in the market without Frankel,Could not believe my eyes when i seen 2/1,Immortal Verse will need alot more than 3lbs to gethttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28502383/qe2-betting-without-frankel?post_id=509917515#509917515Absolutely not! not even backing Frankel at those prices,only had one bet on the race and thats a nice wedge on Excelebration in the market without Frankel,Could not believe my eyes when i seen 2/1,Immortal Verse will need alot more than 3lbs to getWed, 12 Oct 2011 18:01:56 -0500