New Posts For Thread: is the arc the most overrated horse race in the world?https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28316649/is-the-arc-the-most-overrated-horse-race-in-the-worldi'm probably in a minority here, but i've never really got the vast appeal of this race. most arcs are run at a crawl, and nothing really seems to happen until the home straight. yawn. today's race was an exception, run at a furious lick, but unfortubizarre thread imo.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28316649/is-the-arc-the-most-overrated-horse-race-in-the-world?post_id=509965249#509965249bizarre thread imo.Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:43:27 -0500The race yesterday was a function of very fast ground (not necessarily firm) which was not what most of the ratings were based on, misjudgement of pace by senior jockeys who probably thought that the hares would come back to them,and an improving filhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28316649/is-the-arc-the-most-overrated-horse-race-in-the-world?post_id=509930743#509930743The race yesterday was a function of very fast ground (not necessarily firm) which was not what most of the ratings were based on, misjudgement of pace by senior jockeys who probably thought that the hares would come back to them,and an improving filThu, 13 Oct 2011 05:09:47 -0500Agree with the danedream comments, to for everyone to see, look at the replay of the Ard when it gets to the 200 metre Mark, the way the Filly changes it legs!Wow! what sight , cruising around the course for 2200 metres then Starke has to wake her uphttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28316649/is-the-arc-the-most-overrated-horse-race-in-the-world?post_id=509241363#509241363Agree with the danedream comments, to for everyone to see, look at the replay of the Ard when it gets to the 200 metre Mark, the way the Filly changes it legs!Wow! what sight , cruising around the course for 2200 metres then Starke has to wake her upWed, 05 Oct 2011 08:53:27 -0500Bazzar, I was referring to the past 7 years with how the race has got better , from after when alkasaad won it.Its always been my understanding any female horse up whilst be a 3 yo is a filly until they reach the age of four. At four years old, theyhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28316649/is-the-arc-the-most-overrated-horse-race-in-the-world?post_id=509221507#509221507Bazzar, I was referring to the past 7 years with how the race has got better , from after when alkasaad won it.Its always been my understanding any female horse up whilst be a 3 yo is a filly until they reach the age of four. At four years old, theyWed, 05 Oct 2011 08:49:02 -0500This little filly does not fit any pattern, this could be construed as aftertiming, but I first bet her on 7th September and followed up at other times after a win on here, the only criteria I used what would I do if she were mine, using the good oldhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28316649/is-the-arc-the-most-overrated-horse-race-in-the-world?post_id=509133727#509133727This little filly does not fit any pattern, this could be construed as aftertiming, but I first bet her on 7th September and followed up at other times after a win on here, the only criteria I used what would I do if she were mine, using the good oldWed, 05 Oct 2011 08:29:41 -0500yeah maybe I was being a little bit over the top by saying she won't reproduce, but then it wouldn't exactly surprise me... you see plenty of arc winners that look incredible on the day but fail to go on the next season (hellisio springs to mind, forhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28316649/is-the-arc-the-most-overrated-horse-race-in-the-world?post_id=509045635#509045635yeah maybe I was being a little bit over the top by saying she won't reproduce, but then it wouldn't exactly surprise me... you see plenty of arc winners that look incredible on the day but fail to go on the next season (hellisio springs to mind, forWed, 05 Oct 2011 08:02:26 -0500Clive Brittain won the Japan Cup many years ago, Rozelkid.Have you bothered to find out at what age a horse reaches MARE and STALLION status.Mythical I will have a bet with you that DANEDREAM WILL equal the standard of her ARC win although not a courhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28316649/is-the-arc-the-most-overrated-horse-race-in-the-world?post_id=509044817#509044817Clive Brittain won the Japan Cup many years ago, Rozelkid.Have you bothered to find out at what age a horse reaches MARE and STALLION status.Mythical I will have a bet with you that DANEDREAM WILL equal the standard of her ARC win although not a courWed, 05 Oct 2011 07:42:57 -0500of the next six home behind Danedream separated by just over a length, only So You Think didn't put up a seasonal best timefigure (unless all the French race times from the card are wrong as suggested by Figgis etc)Hence surprised to read that a fewhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28316649/is-the-arc-the-most-overrated-horse-race-in-the-world?post_id=509039593#509039593of the next six home behind Danedream separated by just over a length, only So You Think didn't put up a seasonal best timefigure (unless all the French race times from the card are wrong as suggested by Figgis etc)Hence surprised to read that a fewWed, 05 Oct 2011 04:43:30 -0500I think Mythical Prince was being provocatively tongue-in-cheek with the title of the thread. Basically he was implying it's not the be all and end all of flat racing, in Tobermory's words. As Timeform have remarked " Some great horses have won the Ahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28316649/is-the-arc-the-most-overrated-horse-race-in-the-world?post_id=509031557#509031557I think Mythical Prince was being provocatively tongue-in-cheek with the title of the thread. Basically he was implying it's not the be all and end all of flat racing, in Tobermory's words. As Timeform have remarked " Some great horses have won the ATue, 04 Oct 2011 20:06:50 -0500Hello everyone, The answer to the question which started this thread is a simple NO!Its a bit of a silly question, it doesnt actually make any sense because there are imitigating factors that justify it being as highly rated as it is , and the main ohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28316649/is-the-arc-the-most-overrated-horse-race-in-the-world?post_id=509030373#509030373Hello everyone, The answer to the question which started this thread is a simple NO!Its a bit of a silly question, it doesnt actually make any sense because there are imitigating factors that justify it being as highly rated as it is , and the main oTue, 04 Oct 2011 19:10:56 -0500