New Posts For Thread: Why couldn't Twice Over have run in The Arc?https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306909/why-couldnt-twice-over-have-run-in-the-arcSurely good enough to have as go at that lot.23 Runs at 1m 2f (including one as a 2YO!)0 at 1m 4fHe has acheived plenty at 10f but i think Cecil takes the 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' maxim to extremes.i think the horse will be worth try at 1m4f, ideally in the BC turf.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306909/why-couldnt-twice-over-have-run-in-the-arc?post_id=507400045#507400045i think the horse will be worth try at 1m4f, ideally in the BC turf.Fri, 30 Sep 2011 14:29:03 -0500sorry meant 12 furlongshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306909/why-couldnt-twice-over-have-run-in-the-arc?post_id=507390611#507390611sorry meant 12 furlongsFri, 30 Sep 2011 09:57:21 -0500Fair Point, but you could say that about a few others in the race.I would not have him too prominent in the betting if he had run, but he would have a chance.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306909/why-couldnt-twice-over-have-run-in-the-arc?post_id=507349161#507349161Fair Point, but you could say that about a few others in the race.I would not have him too prominent in the betting if he had run, but he would have a chance.Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:01:35 -0500Only wins weak Group 1s.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306909/why-couldnt-twice-over-have-run-in-the-arc?post_id=507348621#507348621Only wins weak Group 1s.Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:50:21 -0500didnt he win over an extended 9f as a 2yo??he improved with age and was well placed, i was at York that Dante Day and didnt think that it was the staying that was the problem, if i remember rightly it was a small field and it wasnt at a blistering gahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306909/why-couldnt-twice-over-have-run-in-the-arc?post_id=507348445#507348445didnt he win over an extended 9f as a 2yo??he improved with age and was well placed, i was at York that Dante Day and didnt think that it was the staying that was the problem, if i remember rightly it was a small field and it wasnt at a blistering gaThu, 29 Sep 2011 10:46:07 -0500* At 3YO i meant sorryhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306909/why-couldnt-twice-over-have-run-in-the-arc?post_id=507348275#507348275* At 3YO i meant sorryThu, 29 Sep 2011 10:41:40 -0500AT , i suppose it is more valuable for Prince K to have Workforce win a 2nd Arc but he didn't mind running 2 at the Juddmonte. Workforce's valuation is likely to take a knock if he finishes out of the places on Sunday but 2nd to Twice Over would nothttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306909/why-couldnt-twice-over-have-run-in-the-arc?post_id=507348185#507348185AT , i suppose it is more valuable for Prince K to have Workforce win a 2nd Arc but he didn't mind running 2 at the Juddmonte. Workforce's valuation is likely to take a knock if he finishes out of the places on Sunday but 2nd to Twice Over would notThu, 29 Sep 2011 10:39:35 -0500Im surprised that he wasnt given a try over 12f at one time though, funny you mentioned Ravens Pass, i think the Dewhurst result stopped him winning more races as he was ridden more out the back after that until the Qe11 where for the 1st time he manhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306909/why-couldnt-twice-over-have-run-in-the-arc?post_id=507348007#507348007Im surprised that he wasnt given a try over 12f at one time though, funny you mentioned Ravens Pass, i think the Dewhurst result stopped him winning more races as he was ridden more out the back after that until the Qe11 where for the 1st time he manThu, 29 Sep 2011 10:35:22 -0500I remember the bugger outstaying just Ravens Pass (jock hardly shook RP up) who I'd a nice bet on in the Craven and if you'd told me then he'd never try 1m2f i'd have been astonished, RP ran all over him everywhere but the line.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306909/why-couldnt-twice-over-have-run-in-the-arc?post_id=507347491#507347491I remember the bugger outstaying just Ravens Pass (jock hardly shook RP up) who I'd a nice bet on in the Craven and if you'd told me then he'd never try 1m2f i'd have been astonished, RP ran all over him everywhere but the line.Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:23:04 -0500But the distance he was said to have not stayed was the same course and distance he's just won a Gp 1 over. I thought the stamina excuse was used at the time when the real truth was he just wasn't that good as a 3yo. I'd be surprised if a horse thathttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306909/why-couldnt-twice-over-have-run-in-the-arc?post_id=507347441#507347441But the distance he was said to have not stayed was the same course and distance he's just won a Gp 1 over. I thought the stamina excuse was used at the time when the real truth was he just wasn't that good as a 3yo. I'd be surprised if a horse thatThu, 29 Sep 2011 10:22:00 -0500