New Posts For Thread: With Seville out, does St Nick set the pace.....?https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306593/with-seville-out-does-st-nick-set-the-paceThe Ballydoyle pace angle...How do you see the race being run..... Discuss.Im of the opinion that a strongly run race will see St Nick run very very well, providing he is in there to run his race and not as AOP would say ' he wont mind ensuring a nicHe was ace though wasn't he?https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306593/with-seville-out-does-st-nick-set-the-pace?post_id=507368943#507368943He was ace though wasn't he?Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:55:29 -0500sorry 4!https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306593/with-seville-out-does-st-nick-set-the-pace?post_id=507368925#507368925sorry 4!Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:55:00 -05003 bullets the year dylan thomas won...........https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306593/with-seville-out-does-st-nick-set-the-pace?post_id=507368907#5073689073 bullets the year dylan thomas won...........Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:54:37 -0500Treasure Beach pushes the pace and will go on if needed IMO.Has run good races from 'in the van' and it'd be the only way he'd have a chance in the race so nothing to lose.Really don't think O'Brien fancies he's gonna win this. 3 bullets? Hmm...https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306593/with-seville-out-does-st-nick-set-the-pace?post_id=507365799#507365799Treasure Beach pushes the pace and will go on if needed IMO.Has run good races from 'in the van' and it'd be the only way he'd have a chance in the race so nothing to lose.Really don't think O'Brien fancies he's gonna win this. 3 bullets? Hmm...Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:26:04 -0500Tobermorey has it down.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306593/with-seville-out-does-st-nick-set-the-pace?post_id=507345057#507345057Tobermorey has it down.Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:25:11 -0500All very good posts, all underpinned with the main factor that drives Coolmore. Reputation at Stud. This can be seen in the 'perfect 10f horse' packaging that has now been wrapped around SYT. Looking forward to Sunday.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306593/with-seville-out-does-st-nick-set-the-pace?post_id=507342445#507342445All very good posts, all underpinned with the main factor that drives Coolmore. Reputation at Stud. This can be seen in the 'perfect 10f horse' packaging that has now been wrapped around SYT. Looking forward to Sunday.Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:15:38 -0500And though i say he will end up rated low 120s , there is still a chance , if he can run 3 or 4 lengths better than he ever has before, that he could go very close, maybe even winThat's a tall order , but not inconveivable, and they would feel so vinhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306593/with-seville-out-does-st-nick-set-the-pace?post_id=507342433#507342433And though i say he will end up rated low 120s , there is still a chance , if he can run 3 or 4 lengths better than he ever has before, that he could go very close, maybe even winThat's a tall order , but not inconveivable, and they would feel so vinThu, 29 Sep 2011 08:15:15 -0500Why would you need a pacemaker in The Arc?'There was no pace' has hardly been a common excuse for beaten horses in the race over the years .It is very much harder for 20 odd horses to dawdle along for a mile than for 4 or 5 to do so in a typical Longhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306593/with-seville-out-does-st-nick-set-the-pace?post_id=507342167#507342167Why would you need a pacemaker in The Arc?'There was no pace' has hardly been a common excuse for beaten horses in the race over the years .It is very much harder for 20 odd horses to dawdle along for a mile than for 4 or 5 to do so in a typical LongThu, 29 Sep 2011 08:09:01 -0500No way will SNA make the running - why would SYT want a strong pace anyhow it's a 10f horse?https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306593/with-seville-out-does-st-nick-set-the-pace?post_id=507337281#507337281No way will SNA make the running - why would SYT want a strong pace anyhow it's a 10f horse?Thu, 29 Sep 2011 05:32:55 -0500Remember Coolmore did not use a pacemaker for SYT in the 10f Eclipse after their "bad day" at ascot with a p/m. So with that & Seville's withdrawal, I think they're running no p/ms. Might be congested on that final bend.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/28306593/with-seville-out-does-st-nick-set-the-pace?post_id=507336795#507336795Remember Coolmore did not use a pacemaker for SYT in the 10f Eclipse after their "bad day" at ascot with a p/m. So with that & Seville's withdrawal, I think they're running no p/ms. Might be congested on that final bend.Thu, 29 Sep 2011 05:15:30 -0500