New Posts For Thread: Bin Suroor recent Guineas recordhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/27478557/bin-suroor-recent-guineas-recordJust looking at some stats on Bin Suroor's record since his last win in each race.He won the 1000 Guineas in 2002 with Kazzia. Since then he has had 11 runners with form figures of: 16, 13, 13, 4, 10, 17, 2, 6, 10, 12, 14.Not great is it?Looking atI wouldn't bother about her price(wht moon). Someones only put 2 bob up, and i imagine nobody saying anything about the horse is a factor. There were good vibes about Laughing Lashes and she's a bigger price. I'd imagine her(LL) running might be grouhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/27478557/bin-suroor-recent-guineas-record?post_id=493213069#493213069I wouldn't bother about her price(wht moon). Someones only put 2 bob up, and i imagine nobody saying anything about the horse is a factor. There were good vibes about Laughing Lashes and she's a bigger price. I'd imagine her(LL) running might be grouThu, 21 Apr 2011 04:41:40 -0500Could be something, could be nothing. There is just an appathy to back Godolphin runners in the Guineas these days so i'd not be overly concerned just yet tbh.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/27478557/bin-suroor-recent-guineas-record?post_id=493211505#493211505Could be something, could be nothing. There is just an appathy to back Godolphin runners in the Guineas these days so i'd not be overly concerned just yet tbh.Thu, 21 Apr 2011 04:11:50 -0500She is on the drift today too. Starting to get a little twitchyhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/27478557/bin-suroor-recent-guineas-record?post_id=493211365#493211365She is on the drift today too. Starting to get a little twitchyThu, 21 Apr 2011 04:07:58 -0500the most interesting thing about them stats is the class of race they went onto win after the Guineas, particularly the Colts. It looks to suggest they weren't that good imo, and SBS seems to do mildy better with the fillies he has run, from a smallehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/27478557/bin-suroor-recent-guineas-record?post_id=493211325#493211325the most interesting thing about them stats is the class of race they went onto win after the Guineas, particularly the Colts. It looks to suggest they weren't that good imo, and SBS seems to do mildy better with the fillies he has run, from a smalleThu, 21 Apr 2011 04:06:18 -0500I think we may find out that there is a distinction between SBS and MAZ whose horses look incredibly fit. I would agree that White Moonstone has an outstanding chance and wouldnt be put off by trainer. Would be a different matter if it was SBS.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/27478557/bin-suroor-recent-guineas-record?post_id=493095629#493095629I think we may find out that there is a distinction between SBS and MAZ whose horses look incredibly fit. I would agree that White Moonstone has an outstanding chance and wouldnt be put off by trainer. Would be a different matter if it was SBS.Wed, 20 Apr 2011 02:37:15 -0500I was amazed with the number of horses in that list that turned out to be complete dross. Only 3 of the 31 runners above went on to win a G1 race. The rest picked up a G3 at best.It just shows their current tactics of snapping up decent 2yo's to be shttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/27478557/bin-suroor-recent-guineas-record?post_id=493095057#493095057I was amazed with the number of horses in that list that turned out to be complete dross. Only 3 of the 31 runners above went on to win a G1 race. The rest picked up a G3 at best.It just shows their current tactics of snapping up decent 2yo's to be sWed, 20 Apr 2011 02:16:55 -0500Godolphin haven't had a decent 1000 candidate since 2002( most of them were either not good enough or needed further) but they have this year. I wouldnt let those stats put you off White Moonstone who has an outstanding chance. Plus Al Zarooni's stabhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/27478557/bin-suroor-recent-guineas-record?post_id=493094533#493094533Godolphin haven't had a decent 1000 candidate since 2002( most of them were either not good enough or needed further) but they have this year. I wouldnt let those stats put you off White Moonstone who has an outstanding chance. Plus Al Zarooni's stabWed, 20 Apr 2011 02:00:45 -05001000 Guineas since 2002Hibaayeb 2010 - 3,1,15,7,7,1,8 - Group 1Devotee 2009 - 8Laureldean Gale 2008 - 6silcas sister 2006 - 6,2 fen shui 2005 - 12satin kiss 2005 - 9sundrop 2004 - 6,1,1,2,7,5,5,14,1 - group 3carry on katie 2004 - 9cairns 2004 - 6,https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/27478557/bin-suroor-recent-guineas-record?post_id=493050689#4930506891000 Guineas since 2002Hibaayeb 2010 - 3,1,15,7,7,1,8 - Group 1Devotee 2009 - 8Laureldean Gale 2008 - 6silcas sister 2006 - 6,2 fen shui 2005 - 12satin kiss 2005 - 9sundrop 2004 - 6,1,1,2,7,5,5,14,1 - group 3carry on katie 2004 - 9cairns 2004 - 6,Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:42:14 -0500I hope Al Zarooni can improve on SBS's record. Not a good start though with Buzzword 14th in last years 2000 Guineas.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/27478557/bin-suroor-recent-guineas-record?post_id=493047449#493047449I hope Al Zarooni can improve on SBS's record. Not a good start though with Buzzword 14th in last years 2000 Guineas.Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:07:42 -0500He hasn't lost his job but another job has been created- Al Zarooni.Looking at the 3yos he's got under his control one wonders if that side of the operation is now predominantly his.We'll see.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/27478557/bin-suroor-recent-guineas-record?post_id=493046389#493046389He hasn't lost his job but another job has been created- Al Zarooni.Looking at the 3yos he's got under his control one wonders if that side of the operation is now predominantly his.We'll see.Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:57:41 -0500