New Posts For Thread: Great Endeavour.....https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26251397/great-endeavour........................wins the PP then follows up in the Bolyesports and then wins 2012 Gold Cup.You heard it first here.The apparent reason was , wrongly predicted by me, that they wanted it to look like they were trying. Pipe is the master of misinformation - smashing bloke have met him in the Pheasant a few times but you get nothing from him. In fact he puts you awahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26251397/great-endeavour?post_id=474373849#474373849The apparent reason was , wrongly predicted by me, that they wanted it to look like they were trying. Pipe is the master of misinformation - smashing bloke have met him in the Pheasant a few times but you get nothing from him. In fact he puts you awaMon, 15 Nov 2010 17:41:22 -0600Sausage1 have a look at the head on shot on RUK replays. Hits the horse at least two or three times down the shoulder when its held, coming up the run-in, and several more times behind the saddle, for no apparent reason.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26251397/great-endeavour?post_id=474371649#474371649Sausage1 have a look at the head on shot on RUK replays. Hits the horse at least two or three times down the shoulder when its held, coming up the run-in, and several more times behind the saddle, for no apparent reason.Mon, 15 Nov 2010 17:18:54 -0600Flyingbolt - take your point about the prep run, but still think that if Long Run had won easily then anything finishing close up could have been murdered by the handicapper.Watching the race again, I actually thought the horse was not knocked abouthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26251397/great-endeavour?post_id=474339449#474339449Flyingbolt - take your point about the prep run, but still think that if Long Run had won easily then anything finishing close up could have been murdered by the handicapper.Watching the race again, I actually thought the horse was not knocked aboutMon, 15 Nov 2010 13:11:26 -0600i bet he'd gone wrong after murphy had finished with his umm "corrective" measures on the run inhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26251397/great-endeavour?post_id=474330253#474330253i bet he'd gone wrong after murphy had finished with his umm "corrective" measures on the run inMon, 15 Nov 2010 11:50:17 -0600Looked to me like he was hanging and may have gone wrong but never really jumping. Could he also need a step up in trip and better ground over fences as he ran poorly on softer ground last year?https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26251397/great-endeavour?post_id=474328213#474328213Looked to me like he was hanging and may have gone wrong but never really jumping. Could he also need a step up in trip and better ground over fences as he ran poorly on softer ground last year?Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:31:36 -0600and as Reve rightly says why did Timmy beat him up so much?https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26251397/great-endeavour?post_id=474311677#474311677and as Reve rightly says why did Timmy beat him up so much?Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:34:03 -0600SausageNone of Martin Pipe's 6 winners of the race had a prep race over hurdles. Why would this horse ?https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26251397/great-endeavour?post_id=474303585#474303585SausageNone of Martin Pipe's 6 winners of the race had a prep race over hurdles. Why would this horse ?Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:52:37 -0600JOCI Club Joined: 13 Mar 04Replies: 5326 14 Nov 10 10:16 ****?That was meant to be B0ylesports?https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26251397/great-endeavour?post_id=474170761#474170761JOCI Club Joined: 13 Mar 04Replies: 5326 14 Nov 10 10:16 ****?That was meant to be B0ylesports?Sun, 14 Nov 2010 05:29:59 -0600the form of his Cheltenham win is not stacking up. Overrated imo.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26251397/great-endeavour?post_id=474167585#474167585the form of his Cheltenham win is not stacking up. Overrated imo.Sun, 14 Nov 2010 04:29:10 -0600****?https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26251397/great-endeavour?post_id=474167145#474167145****?Sun, 14 Nov 2010 04:16:33 -0600