New Posts For Thread: The only way FRANKEL could get beat in the 2,000 GUINEAShttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26080029/the-only-way-frankel-could-get-beat-in-the-2000-guineasFrankel has now totally proved himself having clockeda fast time in the Dewhurst under not ideal conditions,loose ground + he got a bump that unsettled him. Underbetter conditions he would have destroyed them. He could get beat in the Guineas if BallIf he hacks up in The Craven there will only be 10 runners in The Guineas, so they won't be in different groups strung across the width of the track.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26080029/the-only-way-frankel-could-get-beat-in-the-2000-guineas?post_id=470708441#470708441If he hacks up in The Craven there will only be 10 runners in The Guineas, so they won't be in different groups strung across the width of the track.Mon, 18 Oct 2010 15:59:35 -0500There is NO WAY he won't go for the derby after winning the guineas, to say he may be aimed at 12f later on if look like staying is ridiculous, if he gets 12f later on in the season against elders the derby would be a doddle against only 3yoand sayinhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26080029/the-only-way-frankel-could-get-beat-in-the-2000-guineas?post_id=470694489#470694489There is NO WAY he won't go for the derby after winning the guineas, to say he may be aimed at 12f later on if look like staying is ridiculous, if he gets 12f later on in the season against elders the derby would be a doddle against only 3yoand sayinMon, 18 Oct 2010 14:19:32 -0500c h i n k s ffshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26080029/the-only-way-frankel-could-get-beat-in-the-2000-guineas?post_id=470694337#470694337c h i n k s ffsMon, 18 Oct 2010 14:18:41 -0500I'm not knocking him, I was there on Saturday, great day. It's just that Henry said he was bumped early and that set him off. They went pretty slowly early on and I think they went pretty slowly early in the Royal Lodge. Wears a cross noseband.I'm sihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26080029/the-only-way-frankel-could-get-beat-in-the-2000-guineas?post_id=470694265#470694265I'm not knocking him, I was there on Saturday, great day. It's just that Henry said he was bumped early and that set him off. They went pretty slowly early on and I think they went pretty slowly early in the Royal Lodge. Wears a cross noseband.I'm siMon, 18 Oct 2010 14:18:03 -0500^^^ Thats what HRAC has already said,Also he is out of a sprinter......one who has a lot of stamina in her pedigree,and as much as he is out of a sprinter don't forget he is by a stamina sire.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26080029/the-only-way-frankel-could-get-beat-in-the-2000-guineas?post_id=470687285#470687285^^^ Thats what HRAC has already said,Also he is out of a sprinter......one who has a lot of stamina in her pedigree,and as much as he is out of a sprinter don't forget he is by a stamina sire.Mon, 18 Oct 2010 13:22:56 -0500Dont care what his pedigree says but watching him race the last thing you think he wants is 1/2 a mile further.Just cant see Henry sending him Derby route far more like GNS/St James palace/Eclipse or break then Juddmonte/Irish Championwith the Arc ashttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26080029/the-only-way-frankel-could-get-beat-in-the-2000-guineas?post_id=470686501#470686501Dont care what his pedigree says but watching him race the last thing you think he wants is 1/2 a mile further.Just cant see Henry sending him Derby route far more like GNS/St James palace/Eclipse or break then Juddmonte/Irish Championwith the Arc asMon, 18 Oct 2010 13:15:20 -0500brigust1 18 Oct 10 18:19 He's out of a sprinter. If they go a good, end to end gallop in the Guineas will he still have a kick left?Did he look like he was running on empty in the final stretch of the Royal Lodge?Same goes for his Dewhurst win ohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26080029/the-only-way-frankel-could-get-beat-in-the-2000-guineas?post_id=470686401#470686401brigust1 18 Oct 10 18:19 He's out of a sprinter. If they go a good, end to end gallop in the Guineas will he still have a kick left?Did he look like he was running on empty in the final stretch of the Royal Lodge?Same goes for his Dewhurst win oMon, 18 Oct 2010 13:14:11 -0500Frankel's sire is Galileo, dam is Kind(Ire) who is also the dam of Bullet Train who won the Lingfield Derby Trial.This talk of him not staying is absolute rubbishhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26080029/the-only-way-frankel-could-get-beat-in-the-2000-guineas?post_id=470681969#470681969Frankel's sire is Galileo, dam is Kind(Ire) who is also the dam of Bullet Train who won the Lingfield Derby Trial.This talk of him not staying is absolute rubbishMon, 18 Oct 2010 12:32:34 -0500He's out of a sprinter. If they go a good, end to end gallop in the Guineas will he still have a kick left? Let alone the hustle and bustle setting him off.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26080029/the-only-way-frankel-could-get-beat-in-the-2000-guineas?post_id=470680657#470680657He's out of a sprinter. If they go a good, end to end gallop in the Guineas will he still have a kick left? Let alone the hustle and bustle setting him off.Mon, 18 Oct 2010 12:19:42 -0500If anyone runs a pacemaker against him then he'll win by even further.Saturday they never went fast enough for him and he he was pulling for his head throughout the first half of the race - yet he still did that to them.Okay he might not train on (alhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26080029/the-only-way-frankel-could-get-beat-in-the-2000-guineas?post_id=470670441#470670441If anyone runs a pacemaker against him then he'll win by even further.Saturday they never went fast enough for him and he he was pulling for his head throughout the first half of the race - yet he still did that to them.Okay he might not train on (alMon, 18 Oct 2010 10:54:01 -0500