New Posts For Thread: Do people think WEIGHT FOR AGE is wrong!?https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26010113/do-people-think-weight-for-age-is-wrongNoticed this comment by Figgis on another thread......Yes, unfortunately it's one of those things that has been going on in racing for so long it's just accepted. Could you imagine AC Milan giving Arsenal a goal start just because their team has a lo........but was Shardari better than Dancing Brave?https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26010113/do-people-think-weight-for-age-is-wrong?post_id=469512305#469512305........but was Shardari better than Dancing Brave?Sat, 09 Oct 2010 16:56:03 -0500SandownWithout the WFA Youmzain would have been a 2 times Arc winner in theory beating STS and Zarkava.I suppose people would say he was just a beaten horse running on against the comfortable, but idling, winners . So that the lb difference was reallhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26010113/do-people-think-weight-for-age-is-wrong?post_id=469512185#469512185SandownWithout the WFA Youmzain would have been a 2 times Arc winner in theory beating STS and Zarkava.I suppose people would say he was just a beaten horse running on against the comfortable, but idling, winners . So that the lb difference was reallSat, 09 Oct 2010 16:55:18 -0500The obvious upside of that would be that more 3yos would be kept in training, leading to the Eclipse and KG being much more competitive amongst the older brigade.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26010113/do-people-think-weight-for-age-is-wrong?post_id=469438501#469438501The obvious upside of that would be that more 3yos would be kept in training, leading to the Eclipse and KG being much more competitive amongst the older brigade.Sat, 09 Oct 2010 07:09:43 -0500IMO any radical changes in the WFA scale would not help the sport. An Epsom Derby winner would only have either the Irish Derby or Grand Prix de Paris as summer targets - unless they upgraded the King Edward. While late season races such as the Arc ohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26010113/do-people-think-weight-for-age-is-wrong?post_id=469435701#469435701IMO any radical changes in the WFA scale would not help the sport. An Epsom Derby winner would only have either the Irish Derby or Grand Prix de Paris as summer targets - unless they upgraded the King Edward. While late season races such as the Arc oSat, 09 Oct 2010 06:35:02 -0500Yes I agree, Sandown , the breeding industry will never let it happen.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26010113/do-people-think-weight-for-age-is-wrong?post_id=469332761#469332761Yes I agree, Sandown , the breeding industry will never let it happen.Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:11:35 -0500FiggisI agree with you that for the all-aged G1's there should be no allowances at all - not only age but sex as well just as jockeys allowances are not allowed either. The consequences would be that fewer 3 yr olds would run but so be it. It would ahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26010113/do-people-think-weight-for-age-is-wrong?post_id=469330529#469330529FiggisI agree with you that for the all-aged G1's there should be no allowances at all - not only age but sex as well just as jockeys allowances are not allowed either. The consequences would be that fewer 3 yr olds would run but so be it. It would aFri, 08 Oct 2010 10:53:44 -0500* credenceI must've been thinking of the bandhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26010113/do-people-think-weight-for-age-is-wrong?post_id=469319693#469319693* credenceI must've been thinking of the bandFri, 08 Oct 2010 09:19:03 -0500Sandown, yes that's true in theory, although a horse with a finishing kick, like STS and Zarkava, can't always be truly measured in weights and measures, as I'm sure you know.Do you think that would necessarily be a bad thing though if Youmzain had whttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26010113/do-people-think-weight-for-age-is-wrong?post_id=469315929#469315929Sandown, yes that's true in theory, although a horse with a finishing kick, like STS and Zarkava, can't always be truly measured in weights and measures, as I'm sure you know.Do you think that would necessarily be a bad thing though if Youmzain had wFri, 08 Oct 2010 08:43:05 -0500Not sure I ever said that Figgis, but agree Ascot a funny place to rate. Used to have a theory (for the relaid straight course) that there were literally 3 feet wide strips of ground that were mini-golden highways, and if you were lucky enough to finhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26010113/do-people-think-weight-for-age-is-wrong?post_id=469315909#469315909Not sure I ever said that Figgis, but agree Ascot a funny place to rate. Used to have a theory (for the relaid straight course) that there were literally 3 feet wide strips of ground that were mini-golden highways, and if you were lucky enough to finFri, 08 Oct 2010 08:42:58 -0500Using the same allowance as for the QE2, as I normally would, then those races can't be rated highly. However, even though those 2 races weren't run flat out, my feeling is they were still faster than that one allowance gives them credit for. Ascot hhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/26010113/do-people-think-weight-for-age-is-wrong?post_id=469314533#469314533Using the same allowance as for the QE2, as I normally would, then those races can't be rated highly. However, even though those 2 races weren't run flat out, my feeling is they were still faster than that one allowance gives them credit for. Ascot hFri, 08 Oct 2010 08:27:32 -0500