New Posts For Thread: Oaks - Ceiidih House - The best credentials seen so far??https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/24005417/oaks---ceiidih-house---the-best-credentials-seen-so-farHaving visited Lingfield on Saturday and seeing action, I have to say the one to take out of the day was Ceilidih House, this may seem strange after seeing good performances from Bullet Train etc.CH was having her second lifetime run, and first run tFair comment on Look Here's trial I think, could maybe say this was better but no evidence of that, although the Timepiece line puts her near your fancy, Rumoush - assuming that Timepiece could have got closer at Newmarket and CH should improvehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/24005417/oaks---ceiidih-house---the-best-credentials-seen-so-far?post_id=432772817#432772817Fair comment on Look Here's trial I think, could maybe say this was better but no evidence of that, although the Timepiece line puts her near your fancy, Rumoush - assuming that Timepiece could have got closer at Newmarket and CH should improveMon, 10 May 2010 10:49:18 -0500The Lingfield Oaks trial on Saturday was far stronger than the 2008 renewal, Miracle Seeker was no great shakes, whereas Timepiece has long been thought of well, although may prove to be an underachiever.I just think 20s is too big thats all, I'https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/24005417/oaks---ceiidih-house---the-best-credentials-seen-so-far?post_id=432772525#432772525The Lingfield Oaks trial on Saturday was far stronger than the 2008 renewal, Miracle Seeker was no great shakes, whereas Timepiece has long been thought of well, although may prove to be an underachiever.I just think 20s is too big thats all, I'Mon, 10 May 2010 10:46:55 -0500Fair enough, you certainly got a good price, and I think we can both be reasonably happy with the O'Brien horse being declared a non runner this afternoonhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/24005417/oaks---ceiidih-house---the-best-credentials-seen-so-far?post_id=432772109#432772109Fair enough, you certainly got a good price, and I think we can both be reasonably happy with the O'Brien horse being declared a non runner this afternoonMon, 10 May 2010 10:43:09 -0500ben10, i felt Look Here should have won the Lingfield Trial...i think Sanders held his hands up and admitted it wasnt his finest hour. That's were most of the improvement came from. I cant say i feel CHouse had a similar excuse on Sat but obv ithttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/24005417/oaks---ceiidih-house---the-best-credentials-seen-so-far?post_id=432771769#432771769ben10, i felt Look Here should have won the Lingfield Trial...i think Sanders held his hands up and admitted it wasnt his finest hour. That's were most of the improvement came from. I cant say i feel CHouse had a similar excuse on Sat but obv itMon, 10 May 2010 10:41:00 -0500I backed Rumoosh at 12s and 10s VieriS. Beautifully bred, would have finished in first 4 in Guineas without draw bias imo and i feel she'll come into her own at 10f+ (strong at finish in Feilden and relaxed demeanour). I laid her half-brother Mhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/24005417/oaks---ceiidih-house---the-best-credentials-seen-so-far?post_id=432771413#432771413I backed Rumoosh at 12s and 10s VieriS. Beautifully bred, would have finished in first 4 in Guineas without draw bias imo and i feel she'll come into her own at 10f+ (strong at finish in Feilden and relaxed demeanour). I laid her half-brother MMon, 10 May 2010 10:38:12 -0500Coincidence backing is no different to trends backing imo, as long as you use other variables that are available as well (as you've done Vieri) it can be a very helpful tool imo.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/24005417/oaks---ceiidih-house---the-best-credentials-seen-so-far?post_id=432765405#432765405Coincidence backing is no different to trends backing imo, as long as you use other variables that are available as well (as you've done Vieri) it can be a very helpful tool imo.Mon, 10 May 2010 09:52:27 -0500I see what you mean, and that would be a good reason to take her on for the trial, but on that performance ability-wise she's done enough to be a contender for the Oaks because now coincidence backers can point to the improvement Look Here foundhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/24005417/oaks---ceiidih-house---the-best-credentials-seen-so-far?post_id=432762841#432762841I see what you mean, and that would be a good reason to take her on for the trial, but on that performance ability-wise she's done enough to be a contender for the Oaks because now coincidence backers can point to the improvement Look Here foundMon, 10 May 2010 09:32:13 -0500I think to take one line out of quite a long piece I wrote is a bit harsh to call me a coincidence backer.The fact that they do have similar profiles is just one positive in my opinion.Who do you fancy at this stage Duncan, and why??https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/24005417/oaks---ceiidih-house---the-best-credentials-seen-so-far?post_id=432762633#432762633I think to take one line out of quite a long piece I wrote is a bit harsh to call me a coincidence backer.The fact that they do have similar profiles is just one positive in my opinion.Who do you fancy at this stage Duncan, and why??Mon, 10 May 2010 09:30:32 -0500Ralph Beckett is indeed very likely to go down that same route with his best middle-distance filly whether she's good enough to win the Oaks or finish only tenth in it imo.https://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/24005417/oaks---ceiidih-house---the-best-credentials-seen-so-far?post_id=432761413#432761413Ralph Beckett is indeed very likely to go down that same route with his best middle-distance filly whether she's good enough to win the Oaks or finish only tenth in it imo.Mon, 10 May 2010 09:19:41 -0500I agree that can sometimes be a big mistake but I see why people do follow it in some cases with trainers having set ways to train a horse. Everyone already knew it was a similar profile to Look Here though and the price has still been pushed out, thhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_antepost/go/thread/view/94098/24005417/oaks---ceiidih-house---the-best-credentials-seen-so-far?post_id=432759569#432759569I agree that can sometimes be a big mistake but I see why people do follow it in some cases with trainers having set ways to train a horse. Everyone already knew it was a similar profile to Look Here though and the price has still been pushed out, thMon, 10 May 2010 09:03:06 -0500