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dr . atkins
30 Oct 20 15:28
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tracks are going to cut all prize money for graders ladbrokes and romford cutting comps rumour friday night opens romford going to be cut sis going to cut funding also.

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By:
Czechbet
When: 30 Oct 20 15:39
honestly what hope is there ffs
By:
dr . atkins
When: 30 Oct 20 15:45
none czechbet the game coming to an end much more faster than i thought its lucky for people who go romford the stadium was re built before covid otherwise it be gone that's for sure sis cutting everywhere romford even making cleaners redundant ffs
By:
dr . atkins
When: 30 Oct 20 15:47
if you have dogs at sis tracks you should check what the cuts going to be with your trainers
By:
28dogs
When: 30 Oct 20 16:03
Writing has been on the wall for years but hard to see a way back now.  Most tracks are just using dogs as cannon fodder for the bookmakers (who just happen to own most of the tracks....).

My forum name tells you how many dogs I had at the time I signed up to Betfair - now, I have none at all in the UK, just 1 runner in Ireland and 3 pups (7 months old) out in the field.  Have a Droopys bitch from a very good litter but couldn't see the point of breeding her when she came in season a few months back so she is also just sitting there for now - decision to be made when she breaks again but how many pups do you keep in the current market?

The reality is that owners have been treated poorly by promoters for years and it is amazing really how many still subsidise the sport.  Good luck to those who continue to do so but the numbers are dwindling.

Depressed myself now Plain.
By:
Czechbet
When: 30 Oct 20 16:18
just dreadful Sad
By:
track record
When: 30 Oct 20 16:29
its a crying shame
By:
track record
When: 30 Oct 20 16:32
it all started going t1ts up  when betfair took off
began with mobiles banned at tracks
then gradually firms became less competitive
then they stopped taking bets
then you couldnt punt your own dog to try recover costs
now we are where we are today
Sad
By:
track record
When: 30 Oct 20 16:38
cant get a decent bet on with firms and prize money reduced
so financial harry carry
By:
wedge1
When: 30 Oct 20 19:26
in the hope of landing the dream some do shed loads dont i will aim to do so as long as i live
By:
backatrier
When: 30 Oct 20 23:06
Just bought a sapling with 2 others. One of them a new owner at 30. Not gr8 news on this thread but Star Sports sponsoring a £7500 puppy comp in December is at least some good news for us dreamers.
By:
irishone
When: 31 Oct 20 07:28
Unfortunately
The question asked by the o p
Is absolutely spot on
By:
Winja
When: 31 Oct 20 11:42
i had a crayford grader in the nineties that won two A8's an A7 and came second in an A6 in the same month and prize money didn't cover the kennel bill.....the premise of owning a greyhound has never changed so prizemoney should not be the end all.......the thrill of visiting the kennel and falling in love with the dogs themselves is the reason......wins and brave runs are the sweets and if possible taking the greyhound home at the end of the racing career is the real reward and one answer to the opening question.......
By:
Czechbet
When: 31 Oct 20 12:02
Difference was you could at least punt your dog back then to some degree at least, these days if you own a dog with some lads cant all get on thus everyone rapidly loses interest and sees any real point to the venture.

if the bookies took bets solves a huge problem in all of this really.
By:
Winja
When: 31 Oct 20 12:48
true we could have it on at tracks but i remember having rows with that footpad harkness when ladbrokes were refusing bets and closing accounts around that time......bets were still called up in shops and you still had to work with military precision if you wanted to place proper bets.......but for the soft nosed owners none of that was an issue and probably still isn't....
By:
Czechbet
When: 31 Oct 20 13:46
yep agree Winja, and the owners who just don't bet just like to watch dog run and go to kennel etc etc they wont keep the sport afloat alone its a betting product.
By:
Winja
When: 31 Oct 20 14:27
the shops are generally full of paraffin lamps and the great unwashed keeping warm and poncing free bets....anyone who walks in looking like they may have a bet and the manager gets a shake on....if that bet is on a dog race and more than a score a foot of cable is laid in their pants and they are on the phone.....they are not managing their business with any intelligence after relying on the FOBT money banks for all those years.....perhaps they will have to adapt....
By:
Czechbet
When: 31 Oct 20 14:45
lol yep we all know that but problem is they can't adapt now and likely won't they don't see value in the product.
By:
irishone
When: 31 Oct 20 17:23
Spot on czech
By:
wedge1
When: 31 Oct 20 18:27
the negativity
unreal its not all about punting
yup its nice to have a touch its rare it does happen as much now as then
its about the love of
one day maybe not that i have that many left i will own the ultimate spent 50 years more money than sense and i wont give up
will also add any hound i have ever owned has had a sofa
mind you this covid might just feck everything
stay safe
By:
dr . atkins
When: 31 Oct 20 19:10
it's not negativity it's reality
By:
Czechbet
When: 31 Oct 20 19:15
boundless optimism without a plan or solution gets you nowhere

Boris esq
By:
irishone
When: 31 Oct 20 19:25
I just heard ARC are going to take the sport forward AT PACE.....
By:
wedge1
When: 31 Oct 20 20:05
reality is all the time i have money i will buy a hound dream and re home it without mugs like me you have no fodder to feed on
By:
dr . atkins
When: 31 Oct 20 20:06
stfu
By:
wedge1
When: 31 Oct 20 20:18
presume you are being rude
By:
wedge1
When: 31 Oct 20 20:21
sad **** feck you
fair play that i am but reliant on gambling no if you meant that then it just about sums up what you know feck all
By:
wedge1
When: 31 Oct 20 20:35
the blocked word was to55er
By:
Winja
When: 31 Oct 20 21:02
when my trainer retired three or four years ago i stopped owning greyhounds after being involved for over 25 years and to be honest its easy to get out the habit.....but i probably would own again.......
By:
Czechbet
When: 31 Oct 20 22:50
your talking only from the heart wedge, but the head wins long term i'm afraid.

I was paying up to 800 per month kennel bills before lockdown, i do well out the game call it some karma tax

now no runners in the uk or Ire for first time in must be 15 years min, my conscience is clear the way the sport is so badly mismanaged i refuse to support it simple.
By:
irishone
When: 01 Nov 20 05:27
Same here czech
Was poking 700 a month thru
A certain crayford letter box
Never again
Twenty years previously had one
Didnt realise it had got so bad
Greyhound welfare ?
Its a wonder the gbgb can spell it
By:
Czechbet
When: 01 Nov 20 06:55
yep the welfare overkill is to try and gloss over the fact they are the prime reason there is welfare problems to start with ffs
By:
doncaster rover
When: 01 Nov 20 11:51
I had two winners last night in my sole ownership,A brother and sister May 19 pupsthe bitch in a A7 her second ever race I lumped on big style in the early afternoon taking the 11/4 for a big stake and then took 9/4 with other firms who don’t allow me a decent bet she absolutely bolted up although she missed the break completely by about 4 lentghs.Her brother who had won races A6. A4 A3 this month but came last in his A2  last Saturday after losing his legs after leaving the traps.We knew there was to be a non runner in his race so any bet on the freely available 9/4 on offer would revert to S P so I couldn’t get stuck in.They eventually 3 races before him declared a non runner with a reserve running,it was only two minutes before the off that they opened up the betting at 2/1 I got stuck into that as quick as I could already aware of the amounts my bookmakers would allow me leaving my main bookie untill last with a minute to go I did a rare thing well rare for me I put on a large 4 figure bet not fully expecting then to take it,possibly cut it in half or maybe even more.Any way they took the bet and cut him immediately to 7/4.I didn’t have time to sweat as they were now going in the traps but safe in the knowledge that should he fluff the start at least I would come out with a healthy profit.for the first time in his very short 6 week career he came out almost on level terms in trap 6 he is perhaps the widest runner they have on the track by the first bend he was a lentgh up but ran very wide and came out in second he showed good pace on each straight to lead but came our 3rd each time he had the race won on the last bend as I know he is a strong finisher he fluffed his lines big style on the last bend and came out in third about a lentgh or so down but powered Dow the straight to lead probably in the last 10 yards and win by a lentgh. I waited untill this morning to withdraw my money from 5 different firms.Yes luck was on my side yesterday,but I have lost  count of the times Lady Luck has deserted me.The kennel team told me the bitch was as near to a certainty that you could get and the dog had a excellent chance but in a difficult race at this stage of his career.so in a way I took a chance on him but he has won me 3 hefty bets out of 4 so I took the chance and it paid off.i bought another Pup 7 months old last week a full brother to Ice on fire ,by a repeat mating.Would I continue to buy pups,yes yes I would Absolutely yes I would
By:
irishone
When: 01 Nov 20 11:55
Come back in a year Les
By:
doncaster rover
When: 01 Nov 20 12:03
irishone it’s possible I won’t be here in a year as the MND that I have is always fatal if things go tits up with my dogs then so be it they will all be found a home and a vetted sofa,and me I’ll just die with a smile on my face knowing that I’ve given my life a real good go.Always remember there are no pockets in a shroud
By:
clayfield1
When: 01 Nov 20 12:13
Donny. What track do you run on.
By:
doncaster rover
When: 01 Nov 20 13:36
Monmore but I have two on Nottingham they did not race yesterday
By:
doncaster rover
When: 01 Nov 20 13:43
The two at Nottingham are very poor,though one has won two races,
By:
irishone
When: 01 Nov 20 14:11
Sorry les had no idea
Good luck mate
You are right about the shroud
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 01 Nov 20 14:49
Always nice to see you get a Winner or Two Donny, all the best with your health for the future.
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