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stayinin
21 Nov 19 10:20
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In part 1, Darran tells us about why he will only bet on greyhound racing. He opens up about his methods; studying videos and form everyday and how he is constantly looking out for prices that are 'too big' or 'wrong'. We also discuss the lifestyle of a gambler and how he deals with 'bad days at the office.'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnO8m382ifk

great watchHappy

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privatehire
When: 21 Nov 19 10:38
I,m in pub most days ( my office ). When i was a kennelhand we always celebrated our big race wins. I did anyway. I try not to av many bad days punting. Wen i do i go to the pub. Laugh
I wouldn,t be as dedicated as some of the young lads that do it for a living these days. I tip my hat to them. I cant sit an do a 14 or 15 race card these days. I dont have the patience. I av met a few who bought there houses n bit o land threw betting dogs. These lads are gods imo. Hope to c a few soon for few beers. I only bin doing it 5 yrs n i dont bet big enough or dont bet enough winners to buy houses. Fair play to them. I might have 4 5 6 bets a week. I watched darrens video tuesday. Good luck to him.
By:
DroopysGregKinkysNap
When: 21 Nov 19 11:42
Anyone who back back 9/4 pokes at 5/1 and bigger is doing it right. Just gotta get on.
By:
At_The_Dogs
When: 21 Nov 19 12:06
Not really Kinky, forgotten the hard part... The dog winning! A 5/1 slip not much use if don't cross the line infront.
By:
At_The_Dogs
When: 21 Nov 19 12:16
Agreed with one thing, most of your "better bets" will be losers.
By:
starship
When: 21 Nov 19 12:37
holding slips at 5/1, 9/4 pokes.
3 slips would go in the bin and the other passed over the counter for payment
By:
dr . atkins
When: 21 Nov 19 14:33
multi bets just kill accounts you may just get one multi bet on and account closed on the high st pads and freds 1 pound lucky 15 anything over that amount will be rang up if you go for a 3 pound lucky 15 it will be rang over and you will be very lucky to get on and prices be cut
By:
Takethepaintoftherails
When: 21 Nov 19 15:22
czechbet is the best judge in the country bar none. keith would not get near.
By:
privatehire
When: 21 Nov 19 15:28
I got nice few quid out a skybet account earlier in year doc.all singles had a lucky 15 for £8 £120 bet. Had it up account closed. Got 2 decent skybet just now. Dont av multis on them. I can normally get on wot i want btwn 2 accounts.
By:
privatehire
When: 21 Nov 19 15:34
Paint i know him reasonably well. I would call him a friend. Chatted few times we bin in company together. His words to me were he knows lads that are as good if not better than him. His edge is he,s a very good gambler. Fascinates me talking to him. Great lad.
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Takethepaintoftherails
When: 21 Nov 19 15:37
agree ph. spoke to him few times a good character. wot makes me say e is the best is because these pro punters are betting ricks only. any one can do that.... czech does not need false prices to win and now thats a skill and wot i call a professional. i admit i cannot do wot e does
By:
privatehire
When: 21 Nov 19 15:49
Same as u paint. Nothing but admiration for him. Met him threw forum. P.f patrick starr met eyeball last year fattie. All great charachters.
By:
metro john
When: 21 Nov 19 15:54
Vanity.
By:
dr . atkins
When: 21 Nov 19 16:12
takethepaintoftherails do you know darren keefe if not you should not be making statements like that
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Czechbet
When: 21 Nov 19 16:41
being a judge really is fck all and it should not be anyone's sole focus, i know good judges who are potless almost a curse as they are such poor punters.

how much you win long term and how you get it etc now that's interesting and all that matters to me.

anyone who has spoke to me like PH etc knows i would take zero pride in being called a judge almost an insult.

Im just a clever **** who wins chunks out the game Laugh leave it at that

never met Darren and from what i saw he says most things spot on about how you have to be mentally, bar he looked up to harry findlay omg Crazy

gl all
By:
dr . atkins
When: 21 Nov 19 16:57
judges are for the old bailey i take my hat off to anymore who makes it pay it don't matter if they win 200 or 500,000 over the year they are not losing. people i disagree with are the people who think they are billy big bo llocks and would not give you a hello seen plenty of them over the years that have hit the ground with a bump and disappeared just remember when your dead these people won't be coming to your graveside so worry about yourself and your family and no one else
By:
Czechbet
When: 21 Nov 19 17:00
spot on doc
By:
privatehire
When: 21 Nov 19 17:32
100 % doc
By:
Deptford
When: 21 Nov 19 18:14
Well putt doc.
By:
nineteen points
When: 21 Nov 19 18:25
another well punted dog.another withdrawal.another reserve scoots home. theres a trend getting set here
By:
wondersobright
When: 21 Nov 19 19:55
bar he looked up to harry findlay omg
Laugh
By:
Takethepaintoftherails
When: 21 Nov 19 21:07
i respect darran doc. av met him at hq many moons ago. he has always struck me as bright
By:
dr . atkins
When: 21 Nov 19 21:14
only going by what mates have said who have been with him a few years ago now and all have said that darren aka the prince very very good at what he does so as i said good luck to people who win at the game
By:
boga
When: 21 Nov 19 22:19
fair play to anyone who can beat the pre-race markets on 40% commission and still make it pay, must have been a sickener when he got caught trying to avoid the premium charge and Betfair taking away 24k I would have many sleepless nights
By:
starship
When: 22 Nov 19 14:27
must have been a sickener when he got caught trying to avoid the premium charge

it liked being mugged without the voilence
By:
SUNDERLAND GREYHOUND EXPERT
When: 22 Nov 19 15:03
Forty per cent premium charge, and still in profit, he must be a genius.
By:
starship
When: 22 Nov 19 15:10
he is
By:
Mahoney
When: 22 Nov 19 15:17
It leads to a major "adjustment" in your thinking, that's all.... and it's important to not lose sight of how you got to be on Premium charge If you can make money consistently to get you to the Premium charge then you can continue to make money

I've kept the same real term profitability using the same methods at the same winning % ... but what you have to make adjustments to is your ROI

The ROI part effects your staking % ... that's when it's important that your are knowledgeable about gambling theory and probability ratios AS WELL as being a good judge or having a consistent methodology

What i'd disagree with in the video is Darren's belief that he naturally has an instinct. "Instinct" comes from hard work, long hours and experience
By:
starship
When: 22 Nov 19 15:21
think he is referring to being at a young age knowing all the times at all tracks.
now and again when discuusing a card , he would say, the four must be a runner on its times in ireland
By:
Mahoney
When: 22 Nov 19 15:24
I should probably clarify that last bit ...

"What i'd disagree with in the video is Darren's belief that he naturally has an instinct. "Instinct" comes from hard work, long hours and experience"

and change it to

"What i'd disagree with in the video is Darren's belief that he naturally has an instinct. "Instinct" comes from hard work, long hours and experience - all of which Darren has done"
By:
cardenden
When: 22 Nov 19 22:01
Woody.. the only pounds you have gained are on your belly,,,
By:
superjudge
When: 23 Nov 19 00:43
know darren  from a young lad. decent judge yes. nothing more.hard working massively.forty per cent and still winning? that is whats called bollocks talk.
By:
sparrow
When: 23 Nov 19 09:46
Superjudge.....I was thinking the same myself about winning in excess of the 40%.
By:
Czechbet
When: 23 Nov 19 09:52
the interview parts 2&3 certainly tailed off a bit wonky...

What is actually the point of them? to promote gambling or greyhound racing?

Unless getting 5 bags a pop whats the point of appearing? other than an needed ego boost which shows weakness
By:
superjudge
When: 23 Nov 19 10:04
agree czech absolutely pointess.
By:
ItsMeSwaddle
When: 23 Nov 19 10:06
Didnt really tell me anything I didnt already know and possibly dont follow the racing as much as people on here.

Only interesting bit for me is protocol for a losing run.

He did allude to the fact somewhere he took a day off...but mainly "work even harder to find winners"...each to their own but does "working harder to find them" percentage wise bring people more success on here? Certainly not me, i end up trying to get angles that aren't actually there.Grin

Not that there is an easy solution either but if you get a decent size interview like that a logical question surely is: Where do you see the game going in the next few years?
By:
Mahoney
When: 23 Nov 19 10:41
SJ / Sparrow ...

When you kop for the 40% it's 40% of your overall profit  ... you can still operate at 10%, for example, profit on your actual betting - then the 40% is deducted weekly out of any profit.

Sorry if i'm teaching my Grandma to suck eggs etc .. but you are making it sound as if you need to make 40% profit
By:
Mahoney
When: 23 Nov 19 10:49
.... which is where i would question him on the video where he says the 40% makes a 10/1 winner a 6/1 winner ... it obviously doesn't
By:
mymumsfinethankyou
When: 23 Nov 19 10:57
what a load of absolute shoit,,,  only watched 3 minutes ,,and i already know hes a mug punter, hes sitting talking about trixies and lucky 15s,,  hes a loser .
By:
mymumsfinethankyou
When: 23 Nov 19 10:58
pro punters dont bet lucky 15s,,  ffs
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